BOL Round Table

The fact that he drove him to this dudes house is bad enough. His guilt or innocence does not matter anyway. Perception is reality.

Whatever happens we can be assured that Saban will handle it appropriately. worst case scenario is we are looking for a couple coaches next year. This isn't something that will be resolved in a few weeks. All the hand wringing is ridiculous.

Because we have a game in 17 days. OL coach is kind of important to our season

That is a very intelligent remark - probably won't influence the bipolars but you tried.

We're not culpable for any NCAA violations on our end unless:

a) we knew about all of these improprieties when we hired these guys or
b) they're found guilty of NCAA infractions and we knowingly retain them on our staff after that happens.

As someone else already pointed out, this isn't going to be settled in days. Right now, the entire story is based on the testimony of a CONVICTED FELON.

It's entirely possible that all of these allegations are true, but right now they're just allegations. This won't be resolved until the season is over. Play out the string with these guys and if they need to be let go in the offseason, then you can part ways and have time to fill the spots without mortgaging this season.

Miami isn't sitting any of the players who were supposedly involved yet, and that should tell you something. Either they know they're f**ked and just don't care, or they realize right now there's nothing they can do but wait. The burden of proof is on the NCAA until they decide to send a letter of inquiry to Miami. Until then, ride it out.

I'm fairly certain if all of this is true these two coaches won't be part of our program next year, but let due process play out and don't make any rash decisions.

Disclaimer: I wouldn't be surprised if Saban let these guys go immediately if they admit to doing all of this, but if he retains them it's no reason to freak the hell out.

God, I'm convinced most people on this board never played organized sports. You don't get rid of your o line coach 2 weeks before the season. Hell, Miami hasnt even suspended anyone yet that's been linked to this.

This case will take literally years for the ncaa to investigate. I'm sure if the ncaa provides any evidence to ua suggesting either coach was in the wrong they will be sent packing. Until then why create an issue where there isn't one? Some of you guys need to take a breath and think for a minute. Alabama will not get the death penalty if stoutland is on our staff this year.

As of right now, all this is a story told by a felon. Let's see how things play out over the next year and if needed we will hire another coach. In the meantime, let's give our coaches the benefit of the doubt. As always, Saban has a plan and he will do what is best for the program.

Correct me if I am wrong. There was only 1 player contact incident alleged by Shapiro against Stoutland plus a few phone calls. This event is verified by a couple of players. Because the Miami thing is so bad (salacious really) I would expect Stoutland to be fined and have some player contact sanctions but keep his job.

Because Shapiro chose to protect Pannunncio (sp?) it is not clear to me what will happen with him. He is not a coach or recruiter. Because of the speed at which the NCAA operates he may just go quietly after the season. Same could be true to Stoutland of course.