BOL Round Table

Grant has done this in his first 4 seasons at bama. Mark was in his 4th season before he got above .500 the first time. He didnt do it again till his 7th season. Mark also benefitted from divisional play and fewer games.

To try and minimize this accomplishment is sad and beneath you nashtide. Your shtick is getting worn out. Some of us are enjoying being proud of our basketball program and coach. We don't need your constant negativity in every thread about basketball.

I really like our team and grant. We will prob have a great record next year.

What shtick? Using actual metrics rather than gut feelings? Valuing NCAA tournament appearances and wins over meaningless wins in a bad league?

I'm not even slamming Grant saying this. The fact of the matter is the league is down right now. It's an objective fact. Not an opinion. You don't have to like it or agree with me. That doesn't change the fact the league is dreadful. But keep living in fantasy land.

Your shtick is you complaining about grant, undermining his success and trying to build support for firing him.

Grant has done a very good job. 3 straight winning records in the sec is a great accomishment.

I don't care about mark. What he did has no bearing on now or the future. It's irrelevant in analyzing anything to do with coach grant. Mark failed at bama and earned his firing on and off the court.

But if you want to compare the 2 then let's do it. After 4 seasons at bama what had mark done? Grants in his 4th season and has significantly more wins. He hasn't had the luxury of a good conference rpi to get him in the tournament like mark did. With that said at this point he has as more NCAA tourney appearances than mark, who got to the NCAA for the first time in his fourth season at bama where we lost in the 2nd round. He followed that up with a 7-9 record, finished 4th in the west and lost in the NCAA tournament first round. If you want to discuss Nit they both have 1 runner-up finish in their first 3 seasons.

So grant in 3 full seasons and 1 that is close to done has more NCAA tourney appearances, way more conference wins, significantly better conference winning percentage, and more conference division titles (which no longer exist) as mark in the same period.

In a very short time grant has taken us to near the top of the conference and kept us there. He finished 1st in the west in his second season, then 5th in the conference and now sits at 2nd in the conference. That's good stuff.

No fantasy there either. Just the facts.

While i agree the league is more watered down this year, that still shouldn't overshadow the fact of the OP. What I get out of the statistic is that CAG is doing something that CMG could never do, and that is win conference road games. No matter how bad the league is, i think we can all argree that it is very hard to win games on the road in conference. While the wins may be ugly and difficult to watch at times, CAG has this team playing with a physical and mental toughness that CMG could never get his teams to do while at Bama. I believe that in itself speaks volumes of the coach we have on our sideline.

I can sit here and agree with both sides of the argument...I have long been a staunch supporter of Grant, but his apparent, I've given up persona in a few games just irks me to my wits end...it is unacceptable for me. Now with that being said, I will continue to support him with hopes that our post play vastly improves next year...saying it is anemic is giving it way too much credit...it coded the first week of December. CAG has to make changes in his staff and personnel in an effort to improve the offense, otherwise I can't see him continuing on as our coach much longer...I'll give him all the credit and accolades for gutting out and putting together the season they have, even though it really is a down year in the SEC and basketball in general, but the expectations, yes even in basketball, are to compete for championships, and there is no reason to think that is not a realistic expectation.