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  • clayton4rtr said...

    He can also do a double clutch shot

    hell, he's more accurate on his double clutch than he is when he shoot in rhythm.

    scottchap

  • BuriedAlive14 said...

    Lacey, Releford, Pollard, Jacobs, and Cooper ALL were scorers in high school. Don't tell me we don't have options....he has ruined these guys with hard nosed stubborn approach that focuses on points off turnovers.

    Well this aint HS Jacobs sucks he is terrible I don't believe I have ever seen a post player this bad. Kid is lazy and has nooooooooooooo athleticsm. Pollard must have played against church league comp because kid just looks lost. He hasn't shown the ability to do anything. I guess he was a 5* athlete but BB player I don't see it. Lacy can score but can't create off the dribble and with no inside out game he rarely gets open looks. Releford is solid and create off the dribble but is small and has trouble finishing around the rim. Jacobs and Coop were scorers in HS not prolific shooters.

    There is def somethign wrong with this offense I'm not saying CAG is not responsible I'm just stating he is handicapped because our bigs are f!!@cking terrible. Between the 2 of them they can't give us 15 and 10 a night

    bama4shizzle

  • Ok this looks like the most civil thread on the board so I will join in. Just my opinions.

    Overall college basketball is awful.
    The SEC is unwatchable out side of Florida.
    Grant is not getting fired this year and probably not next year. There is not enough interest in basketball to make that happen, and maybe that is even more reason why he should be fired.
    Last years recruiting class led to this years team. Pollard is not ready to contribute in any way.
    I have wondered if another coaching approach would have kept Tony Mitchell from going pro and losing his mind last year. Same with JG. Last years team could have been really good.
    As it stands we will be about the same next year as this year.
    2015 could be a good group of players which may make it easier at that time to bring in a high level coach.

    Hankvsjake

  • scottchap said...

    hell, he's more accurate on his double clutch than he is when he shoot in rhythm.

    Well he was off tonight and still can't hit the broad side of the barn either

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  • Hankvsjake said...

    Ok this looks like the most civil thread on the board so I will join in. Just my opinions.

    Overall college basketball is awful. The SEC is unwatchable out side of Florida. Grant is not gettSaing fired this year and probably not next year. There is not enough interest in basketball to make that happen, and maybe that is even more reason why he should be fired. Last years recruiting class led to this years team. Pollard is not ready to contribute in any way. I have wondered if another coaching approach would have kept Tony Mitchell from going pro and losing his mind last year. Same with JG. Last years team could have been really good. As it stands we will be about the same next year as this year. 2015 could be a good group of players which may make it easier at that time to bring in a high level coach.

    your post is very accurate and is also an indictment on our basketball program.

    I agree with you that a better coach could have gotten more from those past players.

    Until our administration understands what identity of basketball will win at Alabama we will continue to hire coaches that can't win at Alabama.

    I've always thought that the type of players that our programs seems to attract would be better suited for a style that a few other coaches run than the "high IQ" style that our "great X's and O's" coach is running now.

    scottchap

  • Hankvsjake said...

    Ok this looks like the most civil thread on the board so I will join in. Just my opinions.

    Overall college basketball is awful. The SEC is unwatchable out side of Florida. Grant is not getting fired this year and probably not next year. There is not enough interest in basketball to make that happen, and maybe that is even more reason why he should be fired. Last years recruiting class led to this years team. Pollard is not ready to contribute in any way. I have wondered if another coaching approach would have kept Tony Mitchell from going pro and losing his mind last year. Same with JG. Last years team could have been really good. As it stands we will be about the same next year as this year. 2015 could be a good group of players which may make it easier at that time to bring in a high level coach.

    I disagree with you on point 3. If enough real people make noise, that will certainly be able to happen. Just do it.

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  • crimsonbleeder said...

    I disagree with you on point 3. If enough real people make noise, that will certainly be able to happen. Just do it.

    Probably not to be debated in this thread but are there "real people" in regards to Alabama basketball? And if so, are they so enamored with our current coach's high bball IQ that they overlook the product on the court?

    scottchap

  • scottchap said...

    I blame grant for the L but the officials for the way the game looked.

    Grant should have fought for our players. He didnt.

    There will never be a scenario where its on for refs to allow what they allowed tonight. However that's not an excuse for losing especially when the coach finished the game.

    Man Scott, I don't know. I watched the entire game and it looked they were letting it play both ways. Yeah, we got some bad calls, but Auburn should have drawn several hack fouls under the bucket.

    I would say it was pretty even on the officiating, especially playing in Auburn.

    We couldn't throw it in the ocean, have zero confidence in our big men down low on the offensive side (with good reason), and our offensive sets were pitiful. We don't move consistently enough away from the ball, and as a result we don't move the ball enough.

    Not to mention that Grant is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. This team is small, and we play much smoother when getting down the floor and pushing the ball in transition. It seems to set up our entire offense, but Grant continually seems to pull them back. He needs to encourage it. The brightest spot we had all night was when we hustled the ball up court and made something happen...No better than we score it's our only hope for some consistent offensive success....

    rrobertson

  • BuriedAlive14 said...

    Lacey, Releford, Pollard, Jacobs, and Cooper ALL were scorers in high school. Don't tell me we don't have options....he has ruined these guys with hard nosed stubborn approach that focuses on points off turnovers.

    See, this is where I have been in the minority. I never thought we had a good crop of players to begin with. I thought his eval and recruiting is what has set him back. Believe me, I have been bashed on here for saying it but I never saw the reason to recruit good defenders and try to teach em how to play offense (the coach's weakness). A coach's logical move would be to get guys in that are already skilled to play offense and teach them to YOUR strengths as a coach...which is his defensive coaching ability, and always has been. Lemme tell you 2 guys I was excited about. Cooper and Releford. And dont get me started on the International Experience with MG and CE (CE is just as bad of a scholarship waste as Ben Eblen was). Obasahan is not a bad player, for whatever reason he doesnt play him anymore..as if "HE" (CAG) has seen enough of him..Well, coach, "WE" (us fans) have just about seen enough of YOU.
    Its just a sickening feeling to watch, thats a bad thing, right?
    Thought so..RTR

    "That's what people know us as..ya understand!"

    HeHateMe

  • Its hard to win with 4 guards and absolutely ZERO threat of scoring inside...Teams can defend the perimeter and not worry about anything inside...If we cant drive the ball we end up using clock taking a bad shot and don't have enough bigs to get offensive board.....If we can hit shots we can beat anyone in SEC but if we are cold we in big trouble.....Damn I wish Jamychael Green had some eligibility left....I will defend CAG on one thing its hard to get a premier big man to go to Bama there are better Hoop schools they can go to....Alabama basketball is like Kentucky football and Kentucky Basketball is like Bama football...Bama football gets the pick of the litter and Kentucky basketball do also....RTR

    This post was edited by Dixie Mafia on 2/6/2013 at 9:58 PM

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  • Dixie Mafia said...

    Its hard to win with 4 guards and absolutely ZERO threat of scoring inside...Teams can defend the perimeter and not worry about anything inside...If we cant drive the ball we end up using clock taking a bad shot and don't have enough bigs to get offensive board.....If we can hit shots we can beat anyone in SEC but if we are cold we in big trouble.....Damn I wish Jamychael Green had some eligibility left....RTR

    DM, it isnt hard to win with 4 guards. But the 2nd part of your post is the main reason and most accurate reason this offense sucks...the ZERO threat of inside buckets from the post part. Thats it, right there, thats the reason. Its such at a zero rate that our guards are scared to feed it in to him because he cant handle the feed because he suffers from "stonehanditis".

    "That's what people know us as..ya understand!"

    HeHateMe

  • Dixie Mafia said...

    Its hard to win with 4 guards and absolutely ZERO threat of scoring inside...Teams can defend the perimeter and not worry about anything inside...If we cant drive the ball we end up using clock taking a bad shot and don't have enough bigs to get offensive board.....If we can hit shots we can beat anyone in SEC but if we are cold we in big trouble.....Damn I wish Jamychael Green had some eligibility left....RTR

    To which I say that when the opponent can play as physical as they played you are never going to score inside. We tried and and tried in the first half to score and/or draw fouls and the officials refused to call anything.

    I honestly believe there was no excuse other than apathy for Coach Grant not being thrown out. He should he have gone to half court, sat down and refused to leave till they removed him.

    Regardless of what went on our players needed their coach to stand up for them and he chose to sulk instead.

    scottchap

  • scottchap said...

    To which I say that when the opponent can play as physical as they played you are never going to score inside. We tried and and tried in the first half to score and/or draw fouls and the officials refused to call anything.

    I honestly believe there was no excuse other than apathy for Coach Grant not being thrown out. He should he have gone to half court, sat down and refused to leave till they removed him.

    Regardless of what went on our players needed their coach to stand up for them and he chose to sulk instead.

    Scott, did you tape the game? If so rewatch the 1st half later in the week after the emotions of being in the moment of the game are gone. I think you will see that we weren't nearly as aggressive offensively when it came to doing things that would draw fouls as it seemed in the heat of the moment. Auburn was much more aggressive taking the ball to the hoop then we were in the first half, they just missed a lot of point blank shots.

    You are right about one thing, Grant doesn't stand up for his players with the refs anymore. He did his 1st and 2nd years here. He doesn't anymore.

    This post was edited by robert1975 on 2/6/2013 at 10:03 PM

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  • Need a new coach. Some pure shooters, more big man who don't travel in the paint and can dunk

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    biggsc

  • robert1975 said...

    Scott, did you tape the game? If so rewatch the 1st half later in the week after the emotions of being in the moment of the game are gone. I think you will see that we weren't nearly as aggressive offensively when it came to doing things that would draw fouls as it seemed in the heat of the moment. Auburn was much more aggressive taking the ball to the hoop then we were in the first half, they just missed a lot of point blank shots.

    You are right about one thing, Grant doesn't stand up for his players with the refs anymore. He did his 1st and 2nd years here. He doesn't anymore.

    Oh, there is no way I would waste DVR space on our bball team. Too many reality redneck shows for that.

    Seriously, the end of the first half would have gotten any coach with a passion booted. When he caved we caved.

    scottchap

  • scottchap said...

    Oh, there is no way I would waste DVR space on our bball team. Too many reality redneck shows for that.

    Seriously, the end of the first half would have gotten any coach with a passion booted. When he caved we caved.

    Well I will admit that last play before half was one of the worst mugging jobs I have ever seen when the Auburn players were trying to give the foul.

    Grant looked like a coach in his post game press conferences during the non-conference losing streak as a coach that had given up on his team. Maybe our mini run against some of the dregs of the SEC hid that he has given up on them.

    This post was edited by robert1975 on 2/6/2013 at 10:14 PM

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    meslava

  • If I was coach Grant I would've had the team in the gym running suicides as soon as the bus pulled back into the Coleman parking lot. We might lose but we shouldn't get out hustled. Our basketball team needs a Scott Cochran. We lack toughness.

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