BOL Round Table

I'm pulling for him. Hope he gets in final 4

Hate him. He ruined ronalds career. I will never forgive him for that

Really he ruined it. I guess you hate Dr. Andrews and all the current Alabama medical staff as well. Dr. Andrews examined Steele many times and it was not until very late did he ever find that Steele had a knee defect. The entire Alabama medical staff missed it as well. Those same staff are trusted entirely by CAG. Dr. Andrews is the most respected sports surgeon on the planet. Tell me if you are being told by the best surgeon in the world that nothing is wrong with a player, and then that kid says he wants to play as well what do you do? Really I wonder where people come up with this stuff.

I am happy for Mark Gottfried. He is an alum and did two things during his tenure as our head coach that nobody else did. A #1 ranking and an Elite 8. Also won a regular season SEC title. There were some great moments during his time here. There were also some lows, but that comes with every program.

I don't understand the people that hold a grudge against someone for something that doesn't really directly affect them. As an alum and supporter of the program of course I was upset at the level of our play the last couple of years he was here and it was time for him to go. But it is over. Let it go. He made mistakes. And he paid for it. He lost his job. Pretty sure that wasn't in his 10 year plan. People lose passion for things in their job field all the time, his was just on a larger stage than 95% of other people.

I never once heard him say a bad thing or make a snide remark about Alabama after he was fired, unlike some others(like Mr Bobby Knight) have done.

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He used his time off and found his desire, but left his mess behind. Hopefully he learned his lesson.

Dont quote my logic when you dont understand it. That will be a good rule of thumb for you going forward.

Gottfried got complacent, lazy, and didnt work to a standard that our University deserves and should require. (and Im not even going to bring his University code of conduct violations).

Wages are based on supply and demand of labor, and demand is based on the NPV of the cash flow streams you can provide. NOT NCAA TOURNEY Victories. Grant is doing, for this program, exactly what is expected of him....to date. Gottfried did not. People who do not work hard and do not do his / her job are not worth any salary. Dont believe me, show up to work next week and stare off into space, play on the internet, and break the code of conduct, and you will find out.

How do you know he was lazy? Was he showing up for work at 11:00 in the afternoon. Was Mal writing him up for skipping work or calling in for sick days? People assume you are lazy if you don't suceed but trust me I have seen thousands of coaches who work their butts off every single second and don't win a damn thing. That's doesn't make you lazy. You know nothing about his work habits and thinking you do is amazing. I really think some of the people on here act as if they actually lived in his office every single day and knew everything that happened in the program. Some of you hold such a grudge that you refuse to see any kind of logic, and when logic is presented to you, you make fanciful statements to try and back up your argument that you couldn't have knowledge of.

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The general sentiment is that he did not work as hard his last couple of years as he did the first several. That, to me, sounds like he got complaisant and judging by his performance now was burned out his last couple of years.

In my career I've had several jobs/positions and if you went to all my mangers and asked them if I left my position in better shape than I found it in they would say yes. I take pride in that and think that is what disappoints me the most with CMG. He had this program going great and let it crumble in font of him. NCSt fans need to hope that CMG has learned his lesson but you know what they say about old habits....

Okay, I'm not saying it isn't challenging or different than most other jobs. So now that we got that all cleared up I'll plainly spell out what 80% of the people here are trying to tell you. He didn't work as hard his last couple of years. Why do you find that so hard to believe? Everyone I know that's close to the program says that, it was written about extensively before and after he was let go so if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then yep you guessed it... It's a damn duck.

Old habits = getting complaisant.

Ivory, you are right about he improved us from Hobbs, God bless him---Hobbs was a good man, just over his head, much like Shula. And he had us on the up, but simply got "fat" (literally and figuratively) on his moderate success, which got him lazy. He'll do the same at NCSt in a couple years, too. It's human nature: get a new job, try and prove yourself, set the world on fire to prove it, make some hay and success, then you feel "comfortable" (unless you're CNS) and you get lazy...simply put...