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TexasTide21 said...
and NC State for advancing to the Sweet Sixteen, but I'm still very happy and excited about Coach Anthony Grant. He has my upmost support and I hope he has yours as well. Given time and patience, he will do great things for The University of Alabama, RTR!
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IvoryTusk said...
I don't support him I hate people attacking and acting like he caused Ron harm when every single person on the medical staff cleared him. Coaches have to rely on a medical staff, it's not their job to judge medical issues as well it shouldn't be. I will attack arguments that are flawed logically if they don't make sense. What's wrong in actually stating facts. If Ron was mistreated medically then he would had a case against UA but even Steeles family felt so confident in that medical staff that they allowed their other son to play for them. The same people that cleared Ron sit on CAG's bench and they would never allow a kid harm, or allow a coach to harm a kid by playing him. They all missed the diagnosis because it was extremely tough. Even Dr. Andrews missed it.
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Bamalaw74 said...
Mark disgraced himself and embarrassed (at the least) his alma mater/employer. He was so distracted by his off the court distractions that he did a poor job and let the program slide . He was fired, which was both logical and proper. I really could not care less about his success or lack thereof at NCSt and am astounded that the topic is of so much interest to Bama fans.
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IvoryTusk said...
Because I don't feel the lazy argument is true, and it's inherently illogical. Lazy implies that he stopped going to practice, showed up to work late, didn't show up at meetings, etc. I feel that there are thousands of small factors that lead to success and failure, and just saying he was lazy doesn't make sense. Most people who get to Million dollar salaries in life are generally not lazy.
I have always felt that people never look at factors that do affect teams. It's not lazy if you still have the same gameplan, and have the same practice plan, but it is a bad coaching decision if you evaluate assistant coaches and make bad hires. There were 2-3 assistant hires that were very poor that led to problems on the staff. Notable Eugene Harris, etc. I don't attribute that to being lazy just being a poor evaluator of coaching talent at that time. Same thing can be said for recruiting misses. I think the one recruit in the end that was extremely overvalued was Pickett. We had several major misses at the PG position that led to problems on the team, and I also felt that he did not correctly evaluate Torrance as he pushed him more as a SG and should have had him at PG all the time (Note he later corrected that mistake in a situation at NCSU were he correctly moved Lorenzo Brown to PG from SG starting this year). We also had several injury factors that played into that 3 year span as well. Losing Chuck Davis was huge, but also Steele's knee injuries directly led to many losses after the NCAA tourney run. I think he also had evaluated some guys as leaders who turned out to not be suited for the role and this effected the team as well.
I could go on and on, but I get passionate because I don't like people saying he was lazy or complacent because it really paints a poor picture of what can happen to a team and what factors lead to winning or losing. Painting in broad strokes is never good in my mind, so if I see a general statement I attack it, unless it's backed up with facts and takes a look at lots of factors.
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IvoryTusk said...
Actually found out new info tonight. Turns out coach knew Ron was injured. Ron told the medical staff he couldn't play. But an evil coach told the medical staff to shut up or they will get fired. He even told dr. Andrews to fudge the examination so he could get away with it. Yeah that is what must have happened.
Fact is not one medical staff in the country, especially one that has dr. Andrews consulting on the case would allow a kid to play if they thought he was being injured by it. If that were true then the medical staff would be fired, but I haven't heard you once bash them. But the guy with no medical experience, yeah he is the one to blame.
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