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Dead on about cross fit, started going about 2 months ago. Sure was getting my ass kicked as not the same as walking around doing some lifting sets. Having strength helps in something's, but its far from the only item needed
Trent also told scouts he was doing 25 and then stopping.
Really wanted the record for jesse though
definitely disappointed, i mean knile davis did 31 reps...
Didn't somewhere it say that Jesse himself said he would break the combine record? I could be wrong but I thought I read that somewhere.
RB's do less... Like 185 I think... I saw where one player did 6
I think everyone does 225.
Yeah but by endurance they're talking about doing 4x100m sprints or what not, overall cardiovascular endurance. Not massive drop sets on bench press. I don't think they are busting out FST-7 or any other body building techniques that tend to be used when hypertrophy is the goal. A circuit, I could understand, when you lift fairly heavy, then move on right to the next exercise, but that's a totally different story.
The biggest issue with high rep bench is the triceps, especially since they need to lock out
No doubt, especially coming from your power lifting background haha. It's good to get a variety i find. I'll do 3 days, typical body part splits, then 2 days of sprinting, athletic drills, then two days of circuit type work. Just spices it up after years of doing the same thing.
I found myself getting bored when I went back to a normal gym so have stayed at CF full time and try to mix in the isolated movements when possible. It's very challenging and some days very humbling. Need to get better at the snatch and clean and jerk as to be more fluid and not muscle it. Would like to enter a CF comp this year if possible. Muscle ups are pretty darn tough as well
This post was edited by Bama Boz 14 months ago
I saw a pretty ripped former fitness instructor (his story anyway) come into a body pump class once. He told the instructor he'd never done that particular class. I heard the instructor (female) tell him he may want to put a total of 20-30 lbs on the bar. He had a sort of sneer on his face and loaded up about 60 or 70lbs. He got pissed and left about 1/2 way thru the class.
The reps are extremely intense and designed to hit your lower body large muscles from every perspective in terms of endurance. I was a loooong way from my peak at the time, but still...I was once very athletic and played 3 sports. I put 20 lbs on there and it kicked my ass. Particularly the lower body where you have to take your own body weight into consideration.
Point is, if you train for mass and explosion, it's not likely you're equipped for extreme reps and vice-versa.
Yeah, because Cochran uses such a generic training program, and sticks with 4x10 for everything! I know for a fact that Cochran uses some pretty crazy rep ranges, like GVT with 15 second intervals between sets, that's worse than FST-7, and also pretty sure that would qualify for muscular endurance as opposed to cardio. Cochran is one of the best in world, his routines are anything but ordinary.
The reason Jesse could break the record lastyear and not come close this year, is because lastyear when the season was over he was right back in the weight room training, this year he has taken a big break since the season ended, fresh off of surgery, and his endurance is way down. Has nothing to do with the training program he's doing, but everything to do with the training program he isn't doing.
The price of victory is high, but so are the rewards.
You think the stuff about last year is still true?
I just assumed all BS after reading this?
I stand corrected if true - wouldn't have thought he used those, guess I should know better then to doubt SC lol
was hoping he'd break it. oh well. Hope he goes 1st round
Who knows? I'm pretty sure one of the staff, Walsh if I'm not mistaken, reported that he broke the record.
I doubt Jesse has been working out since the season ended, he went home, just had athroscopic knee surgery, and I haven't heard of him training anywhere. If he has indeed taken over a month off from working out that would take a toll on his endurance and strength, plus even a change in diet can affect your strength. I seriously doubt any of that would contribute to 20 reps less, but who knows. I have a hard time believing he did a lastyear, and with an extra year under Cochran he can only get 30.
If it feels good you ain't doing it right, and that FST-7, Drops sets, and 100's damn sure don't feel good, lol.......
True, but maybe you answered your own question. Maybe he needs to be doing a combination of both. I do CrossFit 5 days a week and lift 4 after I'm done. You can have both, but the muscles have to be trained/conditioned to do so. I know you know all this....
And let me add that I'm not questioning Cochran's methods. He certainly know much more than me....
This post was edited by rrobertson 14 months ago
That's for HS
Players don't prep for the combine w/ CSC, they go to facilities that specialize in combine prep.
30 is such a round number. i'm guessing he did 30 and stopped on purpose.
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I am be no means a weight lifter, but the big guys that do more than 30 reps train for that exercise and it can take months. And if you don't, that's about it even for a guy as strong as Jesse Williams. I suspect that he hasn't spent the past two months training for this. Williams has tremendous upper body strength and this number -- whether 30,40 or 50 wasn't going to change his draft. Williams was a very good player for Alabama and will be a good pro, but I think his draft lot is pretty set, even before the combine. His weaknesses will improve over time but he needs reps and he's just not a 1st grade -- doesn't mean some team will not pick him up in the first, but that's not his grade.
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