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Why are these scholarships even offered? Maybe I don't understand enough about what goes into a 4 year scholarship, but teams from other conferences make it sound like they allow all their recruits a full 4 years, period. Now, I'm sure there must be some qualifications on them, such as class attendance, grades, and participation in the sport - right? If so, what differentiates the famed "4 year scholarship" and the scholarship players get from anybody else?
Would 4 year scholarships prevent a player, let's just use BJ Scott for instance, to transfer out of UA to another school because he signed a 4-year scholly? Seems that would have sucked for him, as he'd be stuck on a team that he wasn't going to play much for. It seems our ability to let him transfer out and to a place that he could play benefited him, and us, right? Now, I'm of the opinion that he was talented enough that had he stuck it out with us he'd have likely been a player last season, maybe earlier. But regardless, my question is would he have been "stuck" at Bama if he'd signed a 4 year scholly?
The more I think about these 4-year offers, the more I think they are BS and just a way for the tOSU/ND's of the world to tout they are only looking out for the player's best interest with out any real ground to stand on. There's no way they are going to allow a player on the team, for 4 years, if he refuses to live up to his end of the deal - ie skips class, work outs, practice, or is failing.
So in reality, they are no different than our scholarships - right?
"Once in awhile you get shown the light in the strangest of places you have to look at it right."
What do they do if the person redshirts? Thats 5 years.
Please list all of the players that Saban took schollies away from that werent in either legal trouble or academic trouble or injured and received medical hardships... (which is a 4yr scholly).
Ready GO! Bet you cant name 3!
Its media BS and wording is all.. If you come in to bama and do what the coaches ask you to and keep your grades where they need to be, you will not be kicked off the team. PERIOD.
if you arent processing you arent winning
that's what I don't get, if you read stuff on tBB you'd think we cut every Junior or older non-starter every year. It simply isn't the case. Now, there's no denying that we have used more medical schollies than other teams, but the kid remains on scholarship, they had some history of an injury and the "players best interest" is still in place. I just never really understood the whole "4 year scholarship" other than, to me, the only way it could be different than what we are already offering is that it allows players to not live up to their part of the deal (grades, participation, etc) and remain on scholarship - which is retarded.
This post was edited by acal85 18 months ago
I could be wrong, but I don't think there is a 4 year scholarship. I think what they are talking about is when they offer a recruit a scholarship, the basically say its guaranteed for the the 4 years.
Meanwhile Bama has one of the highest graduation rates in the SEC and lowest attrition rates too....
Lets discuss UT, UGA or Bren - somehow, UGA had about 72 schollied players last year... where were all his players? All of his 4 year schollies????
Its a complete joke. I can promise you that Saban's players who dont ever play come out of college with more gained than anybody at other SEC schools (not Vandy) and most other public schools in the country.
This ^^ Google the "damning" WSJ article about the 4 players that left the program that Saban said he wouldn't discuss why they left but assured us there was a reason (implying they broke the rules).
The "damning" evidence the WSJ presents is that each of the players said they left on their on accord and were not kicked off the team (all left for more playing time).
Now I tend to believe Saban (why would he lie in this case), but even if you believe the players the worst thing (the most damning thing) is that all four players left voluntarily. What was Bama supposed to do? Imprison them until their 4 years were up? Some players can't cut it and leave. This is the case everywhere.
One last thing. Although I haven't seen it explicitly stated anywhere, the 5th year for a RS player is not gauranteed. If you are not a contributer and have already graduated, it is standard practice at most schools for those players to move on.
This post was edited by BamaBear56 18 months ago
One last thing... Did you hear that tOSU had a Grey-Shirt last year? You didn't? Well they did... You know why you didn't hear about it? Because they are irrelevant. When you are on top everything you do is magnified 100 times. This is better than the alternative.
I played baseball and our scholarships were yearly. Hell we had a meeting after each year to see if our scholarship went up or down. I have no problem cutting scholarships. Academic scholarships aren't 4 yrs and you have to maintain a certain GPA. What is the difference?
I would hate to write an article and the people I am leaning on for credibility turned out to be these guys. I do not want to bash these men, but they all had significant issues with Bama of their own making and had further trouble with their new schools. Schools that allow that do not compete on the level Saban is competing at right now. He has a standard and whether you acknowledge it or not, you are going to be judged by it.
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