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It just could be(notice the disclaimer mod-in-charge),that since the big bucks gained by an SEC Natl Champ that go into the commissioners pocket are not at stake this time,Slive will,finally.serve justice to Auburn,the slickest,most dishonest program in SEC and NCAA history.
What do you think?
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Fast Eddie2 23 months ago
We, will, see, what, happens,.
string 'em up!
Was Auburn even 6 games into the season when he got cleared to play?
I, see, what, you did there!
If you dreamed you were a sleep and you woke up, would you be awake?
I would imagine it would be worse if the school that turned them in would have been outside the SEC. As in the Cam case, he can keep this debacle "in house" too.
This story is now front page of Foxnews.com. Just a rehash of the AP story, which is also on espn.com.
Anybody have a link? Please. TIA.
Slive is a better man than most in this forum believe. If you are trying to suggest he allowed Cam to play in the BCSNC game for the money, you are way off. I know that is a common belief among Bama fans, but Cam was cleared by the NCAA (See NCAA statement below). You know, the people who actually decide who plays? Either way, Auburn/SEC would still get the bowl allotment, so that argument is invalid. You should also check into how an NCAA investigation actually works. They are in charge. It has very little to do with the commissioner of a league. The NCAA also has a "Committee on Infractions." The SEC is assigned a member of the Committee (Gregory Sankey) who helps make the decision of who plays.
If the NCAA clears a player there is zero risk by the league to play him. In the AU situation, Cam was cleared with "Concerns." That means he was cleared with a few open questions. if he was cleared by the NCAA, they assume the risk. The only repercussions noted in this case was the forfeit of the game, and all games Cam played that season. That also means the SEC/Team would lose future bowl eligibility and bowl payouts (see Ohio State Penn State).
So essentially, Slive actually had more to lose (financially) by allowing Cam to play. As it is, the NCAA, Auburn University, and the SEC had the facts, and not the "Imagination" and trumped up conspiracies of an Alabama fan base. Time to stop blaming Slive. If you want to get upset at anyone, hate on the NCAA. Their rules (guidelines) prevented them from nailing Auburn to the floor. Rules that were amended as a result of the Cam investigation.
NCAA Statement on the Cam Newton Case: After conducting more than 80 interviews, the NCAA has concluded its investigation into Auburn University. The NCAA enforcement staff is committed to a fair and thorough investigative process. As such, any allegations of major rules violations must meet a burden of proof, which is a higher standard than rampant public speculation online and in the media. The allegations must be based on credible and persuasive information and includes a good-faith belief that the Committee on Infractions could make a finding. As with any case, should the enforcement staff become aware of additional credible information, it will review the information to determine whether further investigation is warranted.
All you need to know. "Superintendent Kriner Cash ordered an immediate investigation and that a school guidance counselor resigned after admitting to creating the fake transcript."
We all remember reading all that BS, but how about being suspended for 24 hours the Monday after the Iron Bowl and re-instated just in time for the SECCG, bull, he was involved in the back door coordinating and lawyer maneuvering, no way around it, it was some of the shadiest mess I've ever seen as of recent.
you left out the part where he was reprimanded from withholding the original complaint from the NCAA for so long. By the time it made it to the NCAA it was fully covered up.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't auburn violate an sec rule in the cam situation which slive chose not to enforce?
Says that the counselor wasn't named, but there are only two counselors listed on the school's website...I figure she either got paid, or has some kind of connection to the barn, just playing black helicopters here...
This post was edited by BamaSarge04 23 months ago
So you have all the "Facts" about this situation. Awesome. Maybe you can share? I guess a good conspiracy is always better than the facts. You have to believe that Slive is as shady as they come, and the NCAA conspired with the SEC to allow Cam to play, or you have to believe they investigated and cleared AU/Cam of the allegations. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I believe his dad received a substantial payout, but the NCAA never progressed beyond the "Investigation stage." There simply wasn't enough to warrant suspension. Not sure what you wanted Slive to do.
I think she is a Barn Grad...RTR
Yes there was, he was found to be in violation of amateur sportsmanship rules and was suspended...however the NCAA re-instated him 24 hours later, now how a suspension can be served at a later date for something that happened months prior is beyond me.
slive is a lawyer. so under the table, do whats best for "myself " is what he is trained to do. absolutely believe he knew the barn, cam was guilty of all kinds of crap but that them winning a nc would beneift him. pulled more strings tnan a puppet handler.
Choose not a life of limitation
Do you have all the facts? The NCAA may have the final say, but to think their not gonna listen to the commissioner of the most powerful league in college football is ridiculous.
" If it feels good, you ain't doing it right!"
You serious Dixie?
Olivia Gilbert was the guidance counselor for M-Z so I'm assuming she would have been Robinson's counselor
This post was edited by HNS2TH 23 months ago
I read the lady's name yesterday, but don't think that is it.
I have no idea, just looking at the web site, the only two people they list are Mary Alexander and Olivia Gilbert
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