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If he wins another Super Bowl will he be considered the best QB to play the game? I think it will be hard not to give him the nod. He's has won 3 at this point and had the opportunity for more.
He would at least be top 3 of all time.
He's also been on two teams that choked away Super Bowls when they were favored (heavily in one). Not to mention the Pats cheating and accusations during some of those Super Bowl wins. Also remember when Brady was out for a season Cassel stepped right in and lead the Pats to an 11-5 record and was so impressive it earned him a big contract payday with the Chiefs. Cassel has since done nothing. A lot of what Brady does is the system. He's good, but I wouldn't put him in top 3. Not yet.
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Possibly. Think Bellicheck is equivalent to his Jerry Rice and gets a chunk of credit. Think other good QBs would be great in that system. Id take Brady over Rodgers today though.
This post was edited by Bamaducks 18 months ago
Yes. He IS the greatest...
the talk used to be between him and Peyton, but that's done. It's him, and no one else...
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I didn't care for Brady to much at Michigan but he has become my favorite QB over the last 10 yrs in the Pros. Class act on and off the field
Another Super Bowl win would look strong on his resume
Should be him and Montana. However, Peyton lovers will continue to say Peyton is the best. I think the proof is in the fact of how Montana and Brady lead their teams in the biggest games.
I'm a Broncos fan. But being an objective football fan. If I had to take one qb for one game. Or for a playoff run. I'd take Brady over Peyton any day. History has proven who is better in big games. & Manning just tossed away home field advantage this past Sat!!!!
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hahaha. So losing Super Bowls makes a player (or team) not as good? Brady has been to 5 Super Bowls and won 3. You might want to try and explain that logic to the Hall of Fame who has Jim Kelly, a 4 time Super Bowl loser and 0 time Super Bowl winner, inducted on his first year of eligibility. How about John Elway who lost 3 Super Bowls & won "only" 2? Hall of Fame inductee in 1st year being eligible. You might want to read his accomplishments before making these statements. He is easily top 3 right now. One more Super Bowl win wraps up GOAT.
"In Brady's ten seasons as a starter, the Patriots have earned trips to the Super Bowl in five of them, winning three. He has also won two Super Bowl MVP awards, has been selected to eight Pro Bowls, and holds the NFL record for most touchdown passes in a single regular season. His career postseason record is 17–6; his playoff win total is the highest in NFL histry. He also helped set the record for the longest consecutive win streak in NFL history with 21 straight wins over two seasons (2003–04), and in 2007 he led the Patriots to the first undefeated regular season since the institution of the 16-game schedule. Brady has the third highest career passer rating of all time (96.6) among quarterbacks with at least 1,500 career passing attempts. In 2012, Brady became the first quarterback in NFL history to lead his team to 10 division titles.
Brady and Joe Montana are the only two players in NFL history to win the NFL Most Valuable Player and Super Bowl MVP awards multiple times. Brady and John Elway are the only two quarterbacks to lead their teams to five Super Bowls. He was also named the NFL MVP in 2007 and 2010 (becoming the first player to be unanimously chosen as MVP in the 2010 season) as well as 2007 Male Athlete of the Year by the Associated Press, the first time an NFL player has been so honored since Joe Montana won the award in 1990."
This post was edited by johngur 18 months ago
I look at wins, leadership, Super Bowls and performance as a quarterback when I decide who the greatest is. I love Montana, but he had the greatest WR and a few other hall of famers at his disposal (are they HOF'ers because of him? Maybe). Top 3 in most everyones list for sure. hard to argue though. Elway is an option, but he's on the outside looking in IMO of the greatest. Most talented? I'd say Elway easily. Marino? Only went to one SB and that was way early in his career and lost to the above mentioned Montana. Never had one 1,000 yard rusher but he had super sick numbers! It's a No here. Favre? Nope. Peyton? He is one special QB, knows everything about the position and is great at his craft. But his worst moments (which are few when you think about it), are in the playoffs or in the Super Bowl that he lost. Only been to 2 of them, but has 1 ring and IMO that 1 ring is the only thing separating him from Marino. Brady? He's got the numbers, got the rings, got the leadership, and what's more important IMO when deciding who the GOAT is...he's doing it over and over without the benefit of having dominant WRs at his disposal. He had Moss for 3 years but that's it. Does it not seem that he gets a few new guys out there every year or two? And where is the running game that everyone says you need to have to win the Super Bowl? I really believe that Brady can go out there and win any "big game" just by running his offense and leading. I'll take Brady in a one season scenario, a playoff scenario, a one game scenario, it just doesn't matter to me. Turn on the game film and watch him play the position when it matters the most. It's prolly not as perfect as Joe Montana except in my opinion he's doing it with less talent and in a different NFL era. Sorry Joe, but you come in 2nd place on this one.
But if you asked me who's the best Super Bowl quarterback of all time is, it's hands-down Joe Montana. 4-0 record, 3 MVPs, over 1100 yards passing, 11 touchdowns and zero interceptions.
This post was edited by HeHateMe 18 months ago
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