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The reports from AU camp this year are eerily quiet in regards to the QB position. Chizik says almost daily that nobody has stood out from the pack.
This is a problem. And I think it is currently being waayyyy under-stated down there. If you don't have a clear starter on August 21st, and your assumed starter is having a hard time separating from a Freshman - you're in deep doo doo.
It'd be one thing if you had two guys of the same seniority. Or to have two guys just lighting it up in camp. But when your highly touted guy's turn to take the reigns goes off with a whimper, there's got to be concern.
Frazier didn't impress me in his limited throwing opportunities last year. The fact that he threw so little also speaks volumes to me.
Everyone is focusing on other areas of Auburn's depth chart pointing out strengths and weaknesses. But I think the silence from their coaches in regards to the QB position is quite deafening.
Frazier will prob be the starter. I see them still using the read option to be able to have some running game and Mosley is no threat to run.
Frazier did not impress me with his passing ability last year either. In limited passes he was 5 of 12 with 2 INTs. He really doesnt look like he has any zip on the ball when he throws it.
Don't neglect to consider the fact that the stats their QB's are accumulating are against their defense
This post was edited by wfbamafan 20 months ago
Disagree. I think they know Frazier is the starter and much the same way we did with P. Sims, they want to keep Moseley in the conversation because they'd like to have a backup with some experience. I'm sure they're not wild about Moseley, but experience helps. It's rare you don't know who the starter is by now.
Frazier will be better than he was last year, but I think he'll be average at best. I don't think he's going to be the kind of kid that can rally them from a big deficit or anything like that.
7-5 at best.
yes they don't have a SEC type of QB on campus & their future QB is now a TE in Kentucky. They also don't have between the tackles RB on campus & they have OL problems. The barn is for a long season.
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Well! Go figure. There are two candidates. One has a bad shoulder and can't throw, and the other can't nail down the job.
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Isn't Moseley nursing some type of injury as well?
Honestly what I've found the most interesting. Has been that the tf Wallace has been the qb that has gotten praised the most in all the reports I've read. To me it's funny that Marshall tells them he has little to no shot at playing this year barring major injuries. But he's getting more talk & hype than the two vying for the job. Something doesn't seem right about all of that.
You can tell a good deal about how a QB is going to perform when they are a back up. Not all back ups come in with amazing numbers, but there was always a calm around AJ as a back up. He never had antsy feet in the pocket, looked under control and confident. When I see Frazier and other SEC young QB's (for some reason Brissett and Driskel from Florida also come to mind), they never look comfortable in the pocket. They look like they are running scared. If you look at their season long back up stats as if it were a single game, it is very telling as to how they will perform throughout a season. We know what Auburn has in Mosely, a marginal QB, but what do they have with Frazier?
For the sake of comparison, lets look at AJ's 2010 mop up duty stats.
30 completions on 48 attempts for 389 yards
62.5% completion percentage
3TD's 0 INT's for a 151 passer rating
Kiehl Frazier's 2011 stats
5 completions on 12 attempts for 34 yards
41.7% completion percentage
0 TD's 2 INT's for a 32.1 passer rating
Jeff Driskel 2011
16 completions on 34 attempts for 148 yards
47.1% completion percentage
0 TD's 2 INT's for a 71.9 passer rating
Jacoby Brissett 2011
18 completions on 39 attempts for 206 yards
46.2% completion percentage
2 TD's 4 INT's for a 86.9 passer rating
When you look at it apples to apples, there are some telling signs of where a young QB will end up. I think the numbers speak for themselves.
So in short, yes, Auburn has more troubles at QB than they are letting on.
This post was edited by Babikir 20 months ago
There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success.
An interesting quote from KF after this weekends scrimmage, something to the effect of I don't know what he (CGC) wants or is looking for. Translated I'm clearly the best option and playing lights out. The natives were up in arms over this. BTW, to me they are letting on as though the QB situation sucks. So the question might be is the QB situation better than presented and from what I can tell the answer is no.
I think they are understanding that this is a transition year offensively. They probably will struggle through this season with Frazier and Moseley. The kid from Phenix City is probably their best QB, but why waste a year of eligibility when you know you're going to struggle anyway. The only way he sees the field this year is if Aub starts out 0-3 or 1-4.
The Wallace thing has really been what raised my eyebrow. If he's making all this noise, and we already know what Mosley can do, I think it spells trouble. Because it means Frazier really isn't taking the reigns like they need him to.
Imho...if Wallace is at least your second best qb right now. & you're starting over on offense anyways. He needs to know he isn't red shirting & be taking the majority of the 2nd team reps. As well as getting mop up duty in the games that count. Sense this probably isn't the case. I think all the "Wallace praise". Is nothing more than your typical barn spin at the moment.
What do you mean "if." They are pretty much a lock to start the season 1 & 5.
Don't get your hopes up on that one. But it would be nice!
Meant to say 1 & 4.
Their first 5 games are:
Clemson - Loss
Miss. St. - Loss
ULM - Probably a Win
LSU - Blowout Loss
Arkansas - Blowout Loss
He's still nursing alright. Crybaby.
Ur gonna b sick *U is gonna start the year 3-0 and im gonna hate it. Some how some way they find a way to win games they def should lose. There fans will be all giddy then LSU will blow them out and reality will slowly sink n
Sounds like KF is only sound on swing passes and short crossing routes but has a sense of entitlement, like he believes too much his press clippings as being the second coming of Cam. From hearing things in I interviews also sounds like he may lack mental toughness as well. The job is his and Chizik is using coach speak to try to get through to Kiehl. I can't imagine what will happen if the kid gets rocked his first game out and his confidence gets shot, he is likely to never recover, take bad chances trying to live up to his own hype, etc.
Also sounds like they will run omac as a tailback a lot and try to run him between the tackles.
I was skeptical at first about how bad Auburn will be this year but now I'm starting to buy in, they have nothing on offense, cupboard is bare.
Adding to things is Grant, he was all world back in the spring and have heard nothing about him since.
I think they will win at least one of the first two. Would not be shocked to see them win both.
I watched Clemson play West Vaginia the other day in their bowl game, Clemson's got one of the worst defenses I've ever seen. Auburn will probably win easily, hope the new coordinator for Clemson can get the job done.
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