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heading to the best part....Knock out rounds
This post was edited by BB2One 22 months ago
I have become what I would consider a novice soccer fan. One that if a good match is on, I would watch (unless one of my favorite teams is playing opposite). Like now, the euro cup games are on mid day going up against nothing else. Perfect time to bring this game to more American homes and a showcase for the game.
Only problem is - my goodness these are B O R I N G!
And don't misunderstand me. I actually like this game now, can't wait for our women to play again and hope our men can qualify for their next event they are in the midst of starting. But this showcase for what should be the best of the best soccer in the world - I'm sorry is just boring. If you want Americans and American money to truly support this game - find ways to increase scoring. Even hockey finally figured that out and now they score. Every game just about has been nil to nil with maybe a goal after the 70th minute or later. Maybe two if you lucky but when they come so late, the avg. fan is gone. I was really hoping for much more out of this. JMHO....Bring on the who cares, its soccer (g)
The world isnt going to change the game to accommodate America's sporting preferences, lol. There's no way to just change the rules and allow more scoring without destroying the game. Don't be a PAC 12 guy, it's not just about scoring! Ha
The match ups today aren't the greatest. The English side is not what they are always assumed to be and the Ukraine is playing for their lives. Haven't watched any of the Sweed/France game, but the french should handle them by the end of 90.
While there has not been any goals yet in the Eng/Ukraine game, you can hardly call it boring (in soccer terms). Soccer intensity is all about the build up to an offensive attack or goal. So you get all of these near goals from these attacks, and FINALLY get one. It is a lot of highs and lows. I consider myself a soccer fan (watch some la liga and most international tournaments and some MLS) and think the Euros have been incredibly exciting.
Agree. No way the " worlds game" will change anything, especially the way the game is played, for America.
I think there's a big difference in soccer and football so the pac 12 reference is ridiculous. But to each their own. This mess is boring. AND, I completely understand they are not going to change a National game for Americans...but they sure are marketing the heck out of it to gain more of our dollars. If you can't see that, sorry.
I don't want or need 5-3 matches. But come on, a first half goal would be ok and to the poster above, I get its about the build up to the offensive attack...so put something on goal that makes anyone think it has a chance (g)
Trust me if Germany pulls out of the EU than the Euro will be anything but boring. There will be complete and utter chaos trying to deal with a liquidity crunch on the banking system. It may end up being better for all in the long run but they are going to have to protect the banks through the shock and limit failures. Obviously some are expecting just that as German bond yields go negative.
That's what you are talking about right?
Germany pulling out now? Thought it was just Greece?
On Alabama: CeCe Jefferson - "It was a bunch of beautiful women..." Reggie Ragland - "oh the females of course..."
Americans, ESPN, are marketing the game here- not the world. The world couldn't care less whether we watch lol.
To be fair though, you can't judge based on these games today- they're both high pressure, critical games that determine who goes through to the knockout stage. These type games are always sorta slower, conservative because both teams are more afraid of losing than hopeful to win
and England granted you your wish! lucky goal though aha
Greece is borderline irrelevant. They could leave or be forced to leave, watch their commodity prices sky rocket in the short term but get back in control of monetary policy in the long term. Their economy is so small though, AAPL could write a check for that entire country tomorrow. People will deal with it unless the resulting bank failures quickly spill over into Portugal, Ireland, Spain, Italy, etc.; which is unfortunately likely.
The real “fun” would be a preemptive leave from Germany who is right now holding everything together. The elections in Europe, particularly with the Mediterranean countries are becoming much more radical, though France has also taken steps in that direction with Holland. German Chancellor Angela Merkel, now rivaling Bernanke as the most powerful person in the world relative to the world economy, is dealing with an extremely skeptical public that simply doesn’t have any patience for other countries ignoring the dictated austerity measures. If Germany elects to walk and let the other pick up the pieces, watch out!
This post was edited by manbearpig7 22 months ago
That probably is exactly where its coming from since ESPN bought the rights to televise the matches here. And yeah for me these matches today have shown more of the pressure the teams are under which comes out in playing more in the first half (not to lose) ? maybe? more than playing to win. Which you can't win in the first half anyways. But other matches had played out the very same, at least the ones I have been able to watch.
I don't know, I somewhat got into the Premier league this year and as exciting as that was especially down the stretch....I was expecting to be that into the Euro's and so far I haven't. Maybe as it continues through the rounds?
OK that was exciting. WOW what a save by the englishmen. Unreal. That should have been the equalizer. OK, maybe it was? just not called of course. How could they see that one?
Not to mention I just noticed that was Terry on the play I believe? He's having a very nice year, year 1/2 with his teams and their success both here in America and at home of course.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BB2One 22 months ago
Terry, by most accounts, has been having a pretty bad year. He has been mostly out of form and he missed Chelsea's championship match because of a suspension. He is facing criminal prosecution for racial abuse, which was caught on tape during a game, which ended up with him being stripped of his captain's armband for the National team. Because of the racial incident he was almost off of the team. However, because of the incident, Rio Ferdinand, who is one of England's best defenders, was left off of the team because the victim in John Terry's incident is Rio's brother. Overall, John Terry is having a pretty bad year. Glad to see him perform well today. When he is on his game he is one of the best center backs in the world. However, he has been struggling nightly lately
Wrong. I'd venture to say Terry's form in the close of the season was pretty legit considering he was playing with 2 or 3 cracked ribs. The man is a warrior. Now the champions' league suspension was an abysmal lack of composure on his part, but that isn't characteristic of his play. He doesn't have much pace, but is great positionally and is one who can always be counted on to throw his body into a challenge, dominate in the air, and chip in a goal now and then from a set piece. His form was poor early on, but he was a top player for the last 3-4 months of the season... Even with the serious injury he played through.
No way you can say Rio is one of England's best defenders! 5-6 years ago, perhaps, but today... No f'in way!
Without vidic covering his faults his lack of anticipation, lack of pace, poor decision making, and positional awareness have all been proven suspect. This doesn't even take into consideration that he misses too many matches and isn't hardly ever fully fit.
They have done some rule changes over the years to open up the game. Not passing back to the keeper, loosening up the offside rule, etc.
But there won't be any huge changes to make it a wide open scoring game like a lot of Americans want. Like someone else said the group stage of big international tourneys is like this. Tight and defensive, nobody wants to make a mistake.
Most of the world like the tension and build up of the game the way it is. It should be HARD to get a goal, that's what makes it awesome when it happens. But I'm not tryi g to convince anyone to like it, every sport's not gonna be for everyone. To me MLB is incredibly boring, but millions love it so knock yourselves out.
I don't care what anyone says, soccer is badass. It's the only game that has made countries actually go to war against each other. That's badass.
Yeah thanks for the info. I know what I am about to say will make the Soccer purest go nuts...but please for those just remember its just one man's idea and opinion - and I know it won't be changed...but
I would love to see the offsides go away. Let's just for a moment think about this. Isn't it the job of the defense to cover your man - the men when in their zone type of backline defense? Yes. So why not allow an offensive player to simply just take off ( even if the ball isn't in the air ) and if he's not covered...that's the d's fault. Now maybe this rule is so ingrained in the sport that it would be like allowing a basketball player to hang on the rim and players just throw the ball up for him to push it through I don't know. But this would be the only rule I wish were not in the game. The offense would explode and sure, defenses would respond and find a way to counter - still, just a off the wall thought.
Maybe one of those purest will explain to me why the offsides is so important to the game because I just don't get it. Take basketball for example. You can leave a man camped at the other end of the floor but you lose your ability to play good defense because your now playing 4 on 5 on the other end. So you can only do this on a rare occasion. Open for someone to explain to me why this is so ridiculous. But wow could that open up scoring opportunities. ???
Also, don't get me wrong, true soccer guys. I am beginning to love the game but I do have to admit the nil nil games unless I can find a team to truly root for, therefore getting into the potential attacks and all that goes into trying to create offensive chances....for the novice it becomes slow if you will. I'm sure this is how non baseball fans feel about baseball - yet, and maybe this is the same for this sport for those who grew up with it - I love everything about baseball and its never boring, even a pitching dominant game. So, maybe that's it for you guys and I'm just not there yet?
I hear what you're saying about the offside rule, I've heard it suggeste before. It seems to make sense but you have to realize, a soccer field is freaking huge. It's just not possible to play defense with 11 guys without some restriction on the offense.
Otherwise there's nothing to stop you from just parking 5 guys right in front of the goal all the time. Then the D has to park 5 of theirs there too. Those 10 guys would be out of the action most of the time. Just wouldn't work it would completely change the game.
I've heard the argument that you don't have offsides in basketball. True but a Bball court is tiny compared to a soccer field. And the goal where you're putting the ball is a speck compared to a soccer goal. The comparison isn't valid.
LOL yeah that would get insane I guess.
Yea, as far as doing away with the offside rule.. like Landshark pointed out there's the issue of the size of the field of play.
But another big difference between soccer and other sports, namely football, is its free-flowing nature. There aren't really natural stoppages in play. It's all well and good to say, from a football perspective- if you don't want them to score, don't let them behind you. And that works in football because a normal play is like 5 or 6 seconds. You can defend someone for 5 or 6 seconds and focus on not letting them behind.
Soccer OTOH is 2 45 minutes halves- you can't defend someone nonstop and ensure for 45 minutes that they don't get behind you, lol. Like the saying goes, even the best DB's can't cover for too long- with no pressure on the QB receivers will inevitably get open, and that's in a matter of seconds! Now imagine having to defend for entire minutes at a time! It just doesn't work the same way in soccer :)
I understand your frustration though, when I started watching soccer 0-0 results made me wanna punch a baby lol.. but now I guess you come to appreciate how tough it is to score, which of course makes it that much more incredible when you do. Like the equivalent of 10 touchdowns haha
Since there isn't a game today, all the soccer haters can watch sportscenter replays for 12 hours straight. Sounds like a blast...
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