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A lot of Kirby lovers on here - I'm one of'm - but one day this magic carpet ride with Nick will be over, and without question my A-number 1 choice to replace him would be David Shaw. He's a Stanford guy, so unless he has League aspirations, he could be a lifer there.
Anyway, this is completely worth your time when you have some and is everything that is right about college athletics.
From Yahoo! Sports: What's the key to Stanford's success? According to Shaw, it's vocabulary.
I am a huge fan of what Shaw has done with the Stanford program. This is hands down my second favorite team, because of what the program stands for. Every time they beat USC or Oregon, they are doing it with athletes that are, on average, not as fast or naturally gifted. They play physical, disciplined football. They work their tails off to prepare for the big games, and they are generally a class act.
I would also add one more element. About 80-90 percent of the majors at Stanford are pretty time consuming from an academic perspective, and some are very hard core (e.g., electrical engineering, pre-med, etc). Most of the student athletes there are far superior to what USC and ND claim to have, and they do work harder in school (on average) than many of the other top 25 programs in college football. The players who do not make it to the NFL often end up as very elite professionals or graduate students.
The only way to win with such players is to have incredible coaching and discipline, and that is what makes Shaw so impressive to me.
Completely agree. This is why I just sort of chuckle at all the Georgia Tech fans around here in Atlanta that piss and moan about the academic standards that GT has. GT does have high academic standards - not Stanford tough - and I will say that not having an Education program probably hurts them some, but don't tell me it can't be done.
Takes the right guy, with the right expectations and philosophy, and the right timing. Tech's done it before.
I'd hand Shaw a blank check when Saban steps down.
Harbaugh built that program and the jury is still out on Shaw. We will see how good he is in about 2 more years when all Harbaugh's players are gone.
Did you actually read the feature?
That coach has been gone for two years. The jury may be out for you but he's been mentioned for nfl coaching circles as the next nfl coach at some point. That guy is a great coach and they are going to be really good. He's also simular to our coach in terms of disipline and x and o's.
This post was edited by Wheeler1000 13 months ago
I don't think he did
As I read that article I was thinking it would be great to have him here after Saban leaves (Kirby would also be great too obviously). Given that he doesn't seem to be primarily motivated by ego or money, however, I think that even a program like ours would have a tough time pulling him away from Stanford.
I read the feature and I didn't say that he is not a good coach. I said the jury is still out. You don't know if a coach can run a program until he is 4 years in. Look at Urban Meyer he won at every place he went to the first 2 years but look what happened after he left. Harbaugh built that team and program now we will see if Shaw can keep it going.
I think you're ignoring the fact, though, that Shaw was completely instrumental in helping Harbaugh build it.
This post was edited by 92DT 13 months ago
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I had a negative impression initially of post-Harbaugh Stanford as in the two games of theirs I attended in back to back years they didn't beat terrible Cal teams handily enough for me to consider them elite (even with Andrew Luck in '11), but once Shaw made the QB switch last year I was able to take them seriously again.
I think Shaw will be in the league in a couple years. Like others have alluded to in this thread, being able to win so impressively with Stanford players means you're a "pure coach" that can't be accused of relying on elite talent, top coordinators, etc. NFL owners will be looking at how quickly Harbaugh turned the Niners around and want somebody cut from the same cloth.
Remember, Larry Coker looked great his first couple of years at UM
too. Not suggestiing Shaw will tank, but the jury is out. Personally, I think
he has the right stuff and would be willing to gamble on him if I were calling
the shots at most places non-Bama.
But with the number of times his name has been brought up for NFL jobs, it's likely if
he leaves Stanford it will be a jump to the pros.
What folks need to realize is, hiring the ideal coach has as much to do with timing as
anything. If Bama had been looking for Shula's replacement one year before or after
we hired Nick, chances are we'd have missed on him. The ONLY way Kirby Smart gets the
Alabama job is if he's still here when Saban steps down. UNLIKELY! He'll most likely get his
break after this season. Would have probably been the barn's choice had he been willing to
play their game.
If I were hand-picking the guy today, my first two interviews would be Chris Peterson and Pat
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