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This post was edited by shawnboy 19 months ago
Never Gets Old
If you really think Verne and Gary are biased against Alabama, then you have thin skin.
I would also suggest that you focus on the positive, i.e. we are in a position to win our 3rd NC in 4 years!
Georgia didn't plat toe-to-toe we kept them in the game making mistakes. Georgia should have lost 42-21
Guys, it is every announcers job to inject excitement into the game. EVERY announcer gets into their "excited" voice on big plays, touchdowns, etc... Georgia fans were claiming that Gary and Verne were over the top for Bama. Yall give this a rest...
Verne seems pretty pumped. Silence after the play but it was obvious the production booth wanted that to let everyone at home see the moment as it was in the dome. Not anything to say at that point. Let the camera do the talking and then break it down.
They suck and CBS needs to throw them both out along with Tim Brando! Brando, still sour about LSU's loss to Alabama lobbied to have Dial thrown out of the Natl' Champ game for his hit on Murray. How unprofessional is it to use your chair as a broadcaster and voice your personal opinion? That's Busch league CBS!
Here is a link to all of the TDs and some other key plays. I think they all sound very enthusiastic. The only one that sounds subdued would be Lacy's TD at the beginning of the fourth, which is such a simple play (plus coming out of a tv timeout) it is hard to create excitement.
But judge for yourselves...
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I can't stand Brandeaux. He's a homer and a douche and probably a homer sexual. I don't get the Verne and Gary hate though.
All I'm looking for is professional indifference. It makes for great commentating on both sides when done properly. I prefer Todd Blackledge and Brad Nessler because to get Herbsreit you'd have to get Musburger and I'd rather not. Jmo of course. My issue with Verne and Gary is simple, although they're great at what they do I don't think they do the best job at providing professional indifference.
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood, nobody!"
I'm glad someone finally brought up Brando... he and Barnhart just about did me in at half. That was a horrible halftime show. From the hit on Murray through about 3 minutes into the 2nd half was about as anti-Bama you could get and almost unbearable. Aside from that, I thought it was ok and more disappointed in the officiating rather than Gary and Verne.
My wife, who never pays attention to the games, actually even said they needed to shut up about UGA. I guess they poured it on enough that it caught her attention... that's pretty bad!
Dont really give a shit if the broadcast is somewhat biased as long as it doesn't influence the SEC or NCAA. The only thing I will be furious about is if CBS managed to goat the NCAA into some sort of move on Dial. The play was 100% legal, it was a block. I don't think there has ever even been a flag in the history of football for a helmet-to-helmet block on a defensive player while the ball is still in play. Heads bang all the time in those situations in basically every game, the fact that it happened to be a player that normally plays QB is completely meaningless.
I think its more likely you are biased based on your fandom. Gary and Verne are who they are.....they don't choose sides. That's ridiculous IMO.
It was hjelmet to helmet contact and should have been called but the bottom line is it was in the return and Murray was free to be blocked. Vicious or malicious? I don't think so but it was helmet to helmet. They did play up the suspension angle too much for my taste but it should have been a penalty. Thank goodness it wasn't called!
Have you ever seen, in any level of football, a helmet-to-helmet call on a block? Heads bang on blocks all the time, especially on returns. Fck Vinny made a name for himself leaving his feet lunging into unsuspecting defensive players on punt returns. I don't think you can call it there just because it happened to be a QB if it's basically never called ever.
Looked like helmet to shoulder or shoulder to shoulder to me. I pride myself on not being biased. Looking at it a few times I still don't see the helmet to helmet. Also agree with Chris that the head referee would have heard a helmet to helmet hit even if he didn't see it. He was right there.
Shouldn't have been a penalty nor should he be suspended. Plays like that happen all the time on punts, ints, and kick offs. Dial clearly leads with his shoulder not his helmet. He does not launch himself and Murray was heading in the direction of the play. Reason the hit looks so bad is Murray's head is not on a swivel. This gif shows that he lead with his shoulder and contacts him more in the chest with his shoulder but the jolt cause Murray's helmet to hit Dial's.
Agreed. Helmets clunking together is not automatically an illegal hit, especially on a block. Dial didn't purposely go high, all the impact was to Murray's chest.
It's different than hitting a guy during his throwing motion, when he's basically defenseless. At that moment Murray isn't a QB he's a defender. Head on a swivel after that INT buddy. Every QB is taught that in 8th grade.
The biggest thing for me is that WRs TEs and O-line get blocked like that all the time on INTs and since it was the QB they are making a big deal about it. He was running in the direction of the play if you dont want to get hit as the qb run to your sideline and away from the play. Murray is clearly heading in the direction of the play.
Did you watch the game? Yes we outgained them by over 100 yards but it was toe to toe. Special teams are part of the game. We didn't dominate by any stretch. Even without the block we win by probably 7-10...My guess is it would have been 32-21
It was obvious THEIR team lost. Vern and Gary did everything but the Georgia bark.
I personally think we have returned to the 70's when the AP poll always favored someone else. Most of it seems to be just human nature. Everybody hates Goliath.
EXCEPT for the Dial hit! I know Gary was a quarterback, so he sees everything from a quarterback's viewpoint. But, the last time I checked there is no quarterback on defense. We had the ball on the interception, he is a tackler, running toward the play. So,he got hit like everybody else trying to get involved in the play. If we had not blocked him and he made the tackle, THAT would be ok? If they want quarterbacks to get some kind of special treatment, just have them run away from the play or not pursue the play. Then if someone goes out of their way to pick on the poor defenseless quarterback, they can penalize them. Maybe they could run over to the closest team's cheerleaders and hide. Back to the 70's and the strategy for playing a wishbone team. "Defend the pitch man and make the quarterback keep the ball". That was designed to hit the quarterback if he was going to run the ball. If he is going to assume the role of a running back, treat him like a running back. Hit him all night long and lets see if he is man enough to take it!
I would hope that Alabama representatives are talking to CBS Sports about their 2nd "campaign" to have an Alabama player suspended! The first being LaMichael Fanning's hit in the Missouri game. Do they thing that the SEC Conference Officials don"t watch the game? Do they think they are the only one can determine what is a legitimate football play and what is a penalty? Let the officials on the field call the damn game. Let the announcers work on getting names right and calling . Let the conference office decide what is so over the top. Let the overly aggressive penalties be determined fairly and unbiasedly by conference. Not by CBS Sports who again will NOT be broadcasting the BCS Championship Game. I think it smacks of their own selfish resentment of the "cable networks" and their increasing dominance of college football. Do you think that they know they are going to be pushed aside like the rest of the "old" out of date network television shows? The CBS nightly news, 60 minutes, etc. Or is it the concern about head injuries? That is why you move the kickoff up so there will be less returns and less full speed hits on the return man. That is why you eliminate helmet to helmet hits. I bet college football does not want a class action lawsuit down the road like the NFL. Lets hope that our kids and grand kids still have college football to watch 20 years from now.
This is my opinion, what is yours?
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