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for the 49ers making the super bowl. I know he didnt pan out there, but I know with his "can't do it" speech, that had a lot to do with changing the attitude of the locker room. I always liked him as a person and how he represented Christ. I am just curious to know if the 49ers are where they are now without Singletary and the intangibles he instilled in the players. No disrespect to Jim Harbaugh, but it seems like he set up Harbaugh to have the success he is having.
I really doubt NFL coaches inspire players 4 years later.. you can give Harbaugh 100% of the credit for this year.. and for making a tough call on pulling Smith.
At a minimum MS should get significant credit for what Vernon Davis has become. And from the interviews I've seen, VD would say the same
This post was edited by Bama_Lefty 17 months ago
About as much as Shula should get for our championship in 2009. Shula did a good job stabilizing the program under sanctions and finding diamonds in the rough when top tier players wouldn't consider us.
Ok - so Vernon Davis is a better person now. That is why the 49'ers are in the super bowl. I didnt realize it was that simple.
All 6 catches this post season and all 41 catches in the reg season really made him the greatest player ever!
If it makes you feel good to give Singletary credit, do. Those guys are professional athletes and grown men - only so far inspiration can take you. The rest is raw ability and coaching.
Wow. I struck a nerve. I thought we we're just having a civil chat. You need to chillax.
VD had a huge role in SFs w over ATL.
They had some great interviews with both Davis and singletary looking back at their time together and changes that came.
Im not suggesting that harbough give a ring to Singletary or anything like that. Just saying that MS had more than "none" contribution.
I think I am still mad at Vernon from fantasy...
Technically every coach any player has ever played for played a role in this team's success. Singletary was a beast on the field and for a minute I thought he was going to be their next great coach. He kinda lost control of his team in 2010... As far as being a good person - I dont know. If he was such a great influence than I think he would still be the coach - they got REMARKABLY better after him.
None. It's the NFL, so you can't play the "he recruited them" card. The team was headed one direction under Singletary and Harbaugh came in and turned it around. I'm sure he helped certain guys in their career, but he wasn't taking the team in the right direction at all.
You have to give him a little credit for the talent that the 49ers have. He couldn't get that talent to play together, but he did a good job at getting them.
When the 49ers started turning it around and winning close games, players were crediting Harbaugh and the mental approach and confidence he brought to the team, how they were winning games they felt they wouldn't have in the past.
Lol. No prob.
Harbough has definitely changes their culture and mental focus. No doubt he's taken them to the next level. Wasn't my intention to diminish that
Obviously Harbaugh should get most of the credit, but if we're looking at it from a team-building perspective, you have to go with their GM Trent Baalke who been instrumental in forming that roster, which I believe has the most 1st round picks of any team in the NFL.
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I agree they seem to be deep at most positions. It just seemed right when harbough stepped in (just like at Stanford) the 49ers were immediately a tougher, more disciplined team. If they keep re plenishing their defensive talent like the ravens and steelers have done, I think they could be at the top for several more years.
None. He failed. The credit goes to Harbaugh and the GM or person responsible for drafting guys like Willis, Gore, Davis, Crabtree etc.
This post was edited by Thehit86 17 months ago
Thats what I said to those that want to give Mike Sherman credit for Kevin Sumlin's success at T&AM.
Its about Sumlin and that offense.
FINALLY somebody else sees this for what it really is. MS challenged that group of players, he gave them that focus and drive to go with the want and talent. SO much has been said about him resurrecting the 49ers. People have such short memories, coach MS team had no unity at the beginning of his last season, only in those last 4-5 games after he challenged them did they start to play as a team. Coach MS might not be "the MAN" but he could always motivate and challenge his team/players, some just took longer than others to catch on.
Not sure if serious.
So Larry Coker should get credit for having probably the best college football roster ever or should Butch Davis for recruiting that talent?
This post was edited by james3231 17 months ago
Agreed. We need to thank Charles for bringing common sense to this thread. I like MS but he deserves next to nothing for what this team is doing. It amazes me that some people on this board think that head coaches are responsible for bringing in players (like a poster stated above). Its the NFL, and GM's are what establish personnel.
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Zero. It does no good to instill discipline in players if those players don't perform. MS was able to build a talented team and do nothing with them. As Charles said, it was probably the GM that had more to do with choosing the good players. Harbaugh comes along and boom, its a good team.
If you think otherwise, you're just a MS fan. Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is.
Well said. i totally agree bro
how much credit??? None. zero zilch. Singletary was not a good head coach. They drafted well, but most teams draft whoever the GM wants, not the coach. I wasn't impressed with MS at all actually. Never even a coordinator in his career and was a head coach in SF for 2+ seasons. MS is a great speaker and is ordained minister/preacher. Thats his true calling. Deservers no credit IMO for anything that JH has resurrected in SF. They were terrible when JH got there. Tough defense tho.
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