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I do want to give MY OPININON on a couple of things I read today:
1) I think some do not understand the how difficult it is to recruit players to Alabama. I have stated over the past couple of years that talent in the state will be down for a few years, and it has been. And I knew this would be a tough situation for whoever was going to be the coach at Alabama.
2) The game has changed, like the NBA, the college game is more a face the basket game. In the NBA there are 5 or 6 true Centers that play at a “star” level. It is the same in College. In the SEC, I can only think of Patrick Young (UF) as a true back to basket player.. I am sure there are others. It seems college recruiting has turn to finding big Small Forwards to play the PF role….. Like Anthony Davis, who played center position for UK. If you pay attention to College basketball, most back to basket players are undersize wide body guys, like Jacobs.
3) Don’t be disillusioned about CMG recruiting. Most of CMG success can from keeping the instate talent in-state. Securing those players was a HUGE accomplishment (Wallace, Grizzard, Winston, Hendrix, etc). But refer to my first point to understand how that does not help now. CMG won 3 or 4 recruiting battles with out of state productive players over a 12 year period (Walker, Mo Williams, can’t remember others), I guess Davidson and Gee, but they where not top 50 guys. CMG getting Hendrix to sign was like Grant getting Lacy to sign with Bama. Grant getting Pollard was Huge. CMG signing Williams was like Grant signing Pollard. But there has not been any Rod Grizzard, Gerald Wallace, Kennedy Winston type players in the state since 2009 (Grant's first year)… I think there will be in a couple of years. HATE bama missed out on the 2009 class (Gottfried blew that)
4) Grant is well connected with the AAU coaches in the state. My concern here is that high school basketball has changed some (a little) to resemble AAU. Players are now leaving the state to play at high profile high schools, or playing at high schools which make it easier to qualify with the clearinghouse. Qualifying changed for the 2015 class. They do not have to take the exit exam, but it will be tougher to qualify. So some players are moving around. That’s why I hated seeing that DJ Harvey is not player with Shannon Hale. Harvey is now lost to the talent pool in the state, and more than likely lost to Grant.
Anyway, that’s enough rambling….
I agree on pretty much everything here. I don't keep up with a lot of HS players, but a quick glance will tell you that the state isn't producing any obvious first rounders lately. I know people want to see wins, and then go to games. But if these guys come from, say, Louisianna to watch a game and there are 4k people there, then they go to visit, say, Texas with a full house...it tells them a lot about where they'll be most appreciated.
I also think this is why South Carolina has come so far in football. Obviously Spurrier is a great coach, but they've never done squat in football and their place has a great atmosphere. It made things easier for Spurrier to get the in-state kids and the ones close by, IMO.
I'm not sure what to do about that here, though. You either have it or you don't.
Good post. Always glad to read your opinion. Thanks
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I think CAG has done a good job recruiting but agree that the in-state talent has been lacking. I always compared it to Coach Bryant trying to build up Kentucky Football and then leaving.
Great post and thanks for sharing. +1
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I would like to have a nice round table discussion about bball sometime. I genuinely like all of our players, but obviously some aren't up to it and others seem to be having some issues.
Last year, I had a theory that Releford was playing hurt somehow. He seemed slower than his freshman season. And while we don't have much to go by yet this year, I'm just surprised he doesn't take games over. I don't mean like Kobe would...but from a turnover and getting the ball to guys in scoring position perspective. Engstrom just is what he is, but he has a role. Still don't think Gueye is up to full speed. Lacey is living up to his reputation, and I've always loved the way Randolph plays. I don't care if we get any significant scoring in the post, but would like to see our big guys hit the glass with an attitude and get the ball out for the break.
Alas, I have talked too much about the current guys. The point is, what 2 things do we need from a recruiting perspective that pushes this team over the hump? A longer wing guy and a huge PF that can shoot from 16? Would that do it?
I always look forward to your posts. Great stuff.
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Always love hearing basketball analysis! We get precious little insider stuff round these parts. The program under Grant just kinda keeps a low profile I guess
Great insight. Hard to thrive in recruiting if you are having to rely almost entirely on out of state kids
I agree. I can forgive a lack of athletic ability, but I expect everyone to play with heart and complete effort. I'm not saying players on our team don't, but I would like to see Engstrom and Gueye be much more physical. They were blessed with great size, they need to use it and intimidate people physically.
Been missing your Basketball posts, MrGold! Glad to have you back! Please post more Bball info/opinion more often.
I think we surprise some people this season, and I certainly think we'll be better scorers this season than last, despite not being to the level we "need" to be at. CAG is building this program. We do need to see better coaching this year as well as more production from the players, IMHO...
And to the poster who suggested we need to fill the stadium---YES we do. We have to show recruits that we'll support this team, win or lose.
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Great update. Thank you.
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Mr. Gold, solid post and thoughts on the current state of Bama hoops. Thank you. Recruiting in hoops at UA is a tough job. I just hope it doesn't burn-out CAG as it seemed to ex-coaches, C.M. Newton, Mark Gottfried and to some extent Wimp.
I really think this year's team is going to surprise a lot of people. I think our shooting will end up being a strength. Lacey & Coop will hit a lot of 3's this year imo. Releford, Randolph & Steele will add some more. As CAG has already stated, "We will be a dangerous team this year." You don't hear CAG make statements like this very often, I think he really likes this year's group. And if CAG really likes them, then I'm sure we are all going to like them as well! RTR!!!
Agreed MR GOLD
The talent just isn't there like it was 5-6 years ago. There are a few 2014 Birmingham kids that can play but are slightly undersized. Justin Coleman who I think we have offered and Jarvis Calhoun who I know we are communicating with but haven't pulled the trigger because of his size. Jarvis is a silky smooth lefty with good range and a very good mid-range game. Kid is a scorer. He is about 6 foot maybe 6'1, if he can grow 3 or 4 inches (his dad is about 6'4) I believe he would be a top 50 player. He and the Coleman kid are good friends. (Package deal?) I am going to watch him play tonight and I will report back how he looks in his opener.
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Sounds good UAgrad09. Looking forward to the report. RTR!!!
Great post. Season ticket holder, went to the first couple games and will not miss many. I like what AG is building. Hope he stays long enough to complete the job. It won't happen overnight. He appears to be a great guy.
yea, I know Justin and Jarvis well.... you are right, if Justin grows to his dad's height (6'4), he will be a Major recruit. "Silky smooth" is used every time someone talks about Calhoun...
They would not be a package deal. In fact, Justin is playing with a different AAU team this year.
Jarvis has 23 at the half
The college game would be so much better if the rules were the same for underclassman going pro as they are in football. The freshman rule hurts the game IMO.
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AL.com's top basketball players for 2013
Rank/Name School Pos. Hgt./Wgt College interest
1. Jimmie Taylor Greensboro C 6-9/230 Signed with Alabama
2. De'Runnya Wilson Wenonah F 6-6/225 Offers from La. Tech, Murray State, Samford, UTC and UAB
3. Jeremy Johnson Carver-Montgomery F/G 6-6/220 Committed to Auburn in football
4. Tyler Madison Shelby County SF 6-4/205 Signed with UAB
5. Seab Webster Madison County SF 6-6/210 Will sign Nov. 16 with University of Alabama-Huntsville
6. Isaiah Maston Wenonah SG 6-3/210 Committed to South Alabama
7. Srdjan Budimir Central Park Chris. G/F 6-6/195 Offers from Northeastern, St. Bonaventure and Valparaiso
8. Artis Cleveland Wenonah C 6-11/220 Offers from Alabama A&M, Tennesee Tech, UTC and Western Carolina
9. Chayse Elliott Cold Springs G 6-3/180 Signed with University of Alabama-Huntsville
10. Fred Knight Escambia County G 5-11/175 Uncommitted
Jimmie Taylor, the 6-foot-9 Alabama signee, has begun turning his vast potential into production, and that's a big reason that he's ranked No. 1 on the A-List of the state's top senior basketball prospects.
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