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please explain which team you would pick for the tourney:
1) RPI 44 Top 50 wins - 4 Record vs top 100: 8-8 reg season record: 21-9
2) RPI 46 Top 50 wins - 2 Record vs top 100: 6-8 reg season record 21-8
3) RPI 59 Top 50 wins 3 Record vs top 100: 8-10 reg seasson record 19-11
So tell me which teams you would select to the tourney if you could only pick 2. (and why)
#2 is out because they don't have as many good wins, but I need two more pieces of info. Who did they lose to and what was their road/neutral record?
Based on the information provided i would pick team 1 & 3.
Team 1 had the most top 50 wins and 8-8 versus Top 100
Team 3 had more top 50 wins than team 2 and played 18 games versus top 100(8-10) vs 14(6-8) for team 2.
You have to pick based on what I gave you.
So you are saying that 1 more top 50 wins makes that much of a difference? or is it the 2 more top 100 wins? That isnt much of a difference.
what if I told you that Team 2 has played and beaten 5 teams in the NCAA tourney and team 3 has played and beaten 3 teams in the tourney.
Both have 1 bad loss (RPI 150-300) about the same
You can make blind comparisons and evaluations like this until you're blue in the face.
The three resumes aren't all that different when only reviewing the information you provided, so I'd probably pick 1 and 2 and be done with it. Those two RPIs are significantly better and the other sets of data are all about equal.
1 is definitely in. Put 2 and 3 in a hat and mix it up to draw one out if you need to.
My theory on bubble teams is that if you're legitimately on the bubble in a watered down field, you've already blown multiple opportunities to set your resume apart so you have no gripe if you're left out.
Teams generally on the 9 line or higher are "safe" well before Selection Sunday. If you're an 11 or 12 seed, or if you're among the first 10 out - your season was too "blah" for you to have a gripe one way or the other.
It's all subjective when you are talking about top 50 and top 100. Take us for example. We didn't have any top 50 wins, but we had 4 wins between 52-59. Then compare that to somebody like St. Mary's who had one win better than those, but their next best win was over a team ranked in the 60's somewhere. I wouldn't make an evaluation on just the info you are giving.
Teams 1 & 2
Team 1 - 4 top 50 wins, rpi under 50, 20+ wins, .500 vs best opponents
Team 2 - rpi under 50, 20+ wins (the other qualifications were pretty similar between 2 & 3)
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This was pretty much what I was getting at.
Option 3 is Tennessee - and all of my Vol friends are whining today. I told them they had all year to make their point and failed to do so. They keep claiming all these top 100 games but really there isnt a big difference between their and the other 2. They also didnt hit the "magic 20 win" plateau (reg season) - and that 1 win was probably actually the difference. Especially if it wouldve been against a decent team.
Boise and LaSalle are the other 2 teams and are in one of the play in games, so I think their status in the field is about where it should be. I dont think SEC teams are eligable for play-in spots... which probably cost UT also.. that and Ole Miss winning the tourney
Those two teams should have gotten in over Tennessee. That's why I said lets see all of the criteria. The only two teams I had any issue with that got in are playing each other tomorrow night(MTSU and SMC). Although nobody has any reason to complain because like you and Nash said everybody had plenty of opportunities to get it done and didn't.
And I those 2 teams, in my opinion were fair too.
MTSU dominated their schedule and their conference and slipped up in their tourney. Yes, their schedule was weak, but 27-4 is still worthy of a bid. Especially with one of those wins being over Ole Miss, who wont the SECT. I remember when Samford did that in 2000, but still got a bid for their regular season body of work.
SMC was 1-3 vs top 50, but 7-5 vs top 100.. so they had 1 less top 100 win than UT, but with a much more dominant season 26-5.
once again - if you go 26-5 or 27-4 in Div 1 basketball you have secured yourself as a top 68 team. If you go 19-11 then you are leaving it up to the gods...
I don't agree on MTSU in the least bit, but it is what it is. If they wouldn't have lost to two teams outside the top 100 I wouldn't have as big a gripe, but they lost more games outside it that they won games inside it. I'm not saying MTSU isn't a good squad, but to say their resume equally compared to other teams left out is better is just not true. The little guy had a bone thrown to them by the NCAA this year.
On St. Mary's they beat Creighton, but those other 6 wins came against BYU(2), Santa Clara(2), Harvard and Northern Iowa.
Like I said earlier it is very subjective when you use the broad top 100. Some wins just don't stack up with others. Our 4 wins over Nova, UK and UT(2) and I'll even throw in South Dakota St are much more impressive than that haul St. Mary's put up and Tennessee's was for sure.
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