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Mitchell was gone and Cauley-Stein signed in the fall. We had scholarships available and he failed to address our biggest need, to argue otherwise is absurd.
I understand. I do. This past class was a let down for sure. Going into the season however, he expected 11 scholarship guys back for this years team. That leaves two spots. He filled one with a McDonalds All-American.
I completely understand what you are saying though. Coach Grant has since signed two front court players and with Engy coming back, we have addressed our front court needs.
We will hopefully be able to press more as a result of more warm bodies in the frontcourt. I still fear that we'll be almost an entirely perimeter oriented team next season even with the 3 additions (2 signees + Engstrom.)
Engstrom plays hard and with good intentions, but his offensive limitations are essentially those we currently see with MG. They are both slightly above average defenders, poor rebounders for their size, and any offensive contribution generally elicits emotions ranging between "pure shock" and "controlled hysteria."
CE's numbers last year: 25 games played, 8 min per game, 47% FG (for a center this is dreadful,) 4/10 at the free throw line, 1.8 RPG, 40 fouls in 208 minutes, 26 total points in 25 gms.
Others who have seen the two signees agree they are above average athletes, above average defenders, but are projects offensively. I'm not going to assess them until they've had the benefit of actually playing, but assuming the scouting report is true I'm failing to see an inside game next year.
One plus is that he may actually be able to play 2 bigs at the same time the way we did near the end of last season. We'll see if that helps free NJ up to be more of an offensive threat as he'd be going against 4's instead of 5's all night (even though there are few true 5's left, you know what I'm getting at. He'll be posting guys closer to his actual size, if not smaller.)
I think we are going to have success over the next tow seasons. I think we will be in the tournament for sure(which will have put us in the tournament 3 of 4 years) and I think we could make a run at a conference championship. I think Coach does a good job on defense and I believe the offense will come around due to personnel additions and experience.
The key, to me, to Anthony Grant and Alabama basketball's future is how he replaces the large sophmore class that we have. The 2014 & 2015 classes are huge for the future of Bama basketball.
I think the above will be huge for us. Not only will we be able to play two bigs at one time, we won't have to play Cooper and pollard out of position.
The positive on Taylor is that he can actually dunk. Gueye and Engstrom can not do that.
I think Engstrom was coming along. He had 26 points in 208 minutes his sophmore season and had 23 points in 88 minutes this season while making 9 of 13 shots. I thought we were going to get decent production out of him this season.
First of all, Nick Saban ripping a side judge will never have the consequence of giving the other team points. In basketball, it does, so don't be an idiot. I don't know if you can read lips, but I have plenty of examples from this year where Anthony Grant looks right at an official and tells him a previous call was bulls*&^.
I appreciate you are a fan of our team and will travel to Oxford to see them play, but you really aren't contributing anything intelligent. If you don't think Grant hasn't called up the SEC and complained about officiating, then you don't understand how things are done. My advice: instead of hitting the "we shoud fire our head coach" button when we go through badly needed growing pains, sit back and try to look at our program objectively and see that our basketball program and image needs a turn around that is going to take more than 4 years to accomplish. Anthony Grant (though still has some improvements to make) is right on track,
That is why you are not getting the big bucks. Doesn't that tell you something??
Agreed, and I'm tired of hearing "basketball fans" whooping it up on the radio and online talking about how Bama's ONLY a basketball school, doesn't care about basketball, will never be great in basketball, blah blah blah, when they are such big "fans" that they go to "1-2 games", and cannot name players on the roster or cannot tell you what the score was of the last game, or anything else to show they really know what they're talking about. Yet they feel so "inclined" to blab on about Alabama being such a "football ONLY school", etc...
These people are making things MUCH worse than it already is.
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I think y'all are selling Engstrom a but short. From my previous obs he's an upgrade from gueye both in athleticism and coordination (feet and hands). I'm not trying to make him out to something he's not, but at a minimum I'd feel a lot better about him receiving those dishes under the basket and him being able to catch it and go up strong.
I love Moose and his efforts to acclimate to this game but if we can save him as a sub and some muscle/fouls we'll be better off
This post was edited by Bama_Lefty 13 months ago
I understand it but Coach DID NOT FILL his scholys. Horrible move.....for depth, etc.
He needs to understand that he has to have bodies for everyone to get pushed. He needs to work harder and bring in better assistants.
1 - Philosophy mistake of going with a short bench. If he can't recruit better...he can't get out of this.
2 - We have a couple of assistants that are subpar for our level of program. Period...
Comparing these two situations is the best example of why our fan base is delusional. Alabama football was arguably still the most prestigious program at the time of firing Shula. Alabama basketball isn't anywhere close to being considered a traditional power. We can become like Florida, but it's going to take some patience and maturity from our fan base and administration.
If you were a Florida fan in the mid 90s, you would have called for Billy Donovan's head too after 2 LOSING season in 4 years. We aren't talking just not making the tournament, we are talking losing more than you win. Grant hasn't even had one season that low. I do realize that many people on this board don't realize that 4 years in football recruiting and coaching is not the equivalent to 4 years of basketball recruiting and coaching, but I'm tired of hearing a fan base so utterly ignorant about what it takes to nurture a successful basketball program for the long-term. Grant is doing things the right way and is making very cerebral decisions with his program. Our fan base might not understand every decsion, but he has made a lot of excellent decisions that many coaches wouldn't have the balls to make that need to be made.
not comparing programs.
Comparing the situations of the coaches. Valid comparisons.
W's and L's aren't the point. It's the pure style of basketball we are seeing, and the lack of "product" that motivates and excites a fanbase that is at issue.
Hell, right now UAB has the best, most marketable style of basketball in the state. They are fun to watch, win or lose.
Alabama's got to get its basketball "Mojo" back.
lol, fixed post below
This post was edited by robert1975 13 months ago
Well that poster thinks that CMG signed Eblen when Eblen was a spring signee that Grant signed after he got here that he had recruited for VCU before taking our gig as HC. So why would we expect research from that poster.
But let's wrap our minds around Grant's ability to evaluate, recruit, and most importantly manage roster spots, Eblen was his first signee when Grant didn't have to sign any additional players that year, Eblen, who turned out to be a 7% career 3 point shooter, and averaged less than 1 rebound, assists, and ppg. Fast forward 4 years and Eben is one of the excuses as to why we didn't sign a big last year. Truth is Eblen should have been the warning siren to all of us that Grant has no clue how to manage and recruit a whole roster of useful players
You're kidding right? Eblen was brought in because we needed a point guard. He wasn't a luxury recruit by any means. We needed a point and when you take a job in late March, your recruiting options are extremely limited. He took a point that was on his way to VCU.
Eblen's freshman year the only other PG's on the squad were Torrance and Brock and they were both seniors. Luckily, we were able to pick up Releford and he was good enough to log significant minutes as a freshman.
Eblen was a last second pick up. And that should have been a warning sign? You want to evaluate Grant's ability to evaluate, recruit, and manage roster spots on the last second Ben Eblen pickup? .
This post was edited by BGZATUA 13 months ago
Teddy, I agree 100% with what you said. I don't post very often on this board. But several times I have had to come on hear And post something about Coach Grant. I coached high school And JC basketball for over 30 years. I am not sure why this team does not have more post players on the roster or why they don't shoot the basketball better. I do know this, Anthony Grant is a Hell of a basketball coach. I also know, that in todays College basketball, to build a program the right way takes TIME. Coach Grant is doing it the right way. We are all very proud of the way our Football program is run. We need to be just as proud of the way Coach Grant is running this program. I truly believe, in time, with Coach Grants leadership, this program will be a top 15 program.
yeah cause Eblen logged so many productive minutes as PG his freshmen year. He averaged 7.6 minutes per game, and less than 1 ASSIST AND 1 PPG his freshman year. Eblen was awful all 3 years he played here and was a total waste of a scholarship.
The real point is why was Eblen ever recruited by Grant to play for VCU? Grant was going to sign him regardless if he was HC at VCU or Bama, that's the real point. Grant thought Eblen had what it took to begin with while HC at VCU. It's not like Grant got to Bama and then rushed and just signed a trash PG because he had to. Grant was already going to sign Eblen at VCU and just further recruited him to come to Bama instead after Grant got the Bama job.
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