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Last week there were some rumors on here that it might not be over with Brandon, even though he flipped to Ole Miss, and I've found that to be true.
Was having dinner last night with a coach who works at Brandon's old school. He said Brandon had passed his required exams (ACT I presume) and gotten enough other scores up to where he's set to enroll, so he'd been back in Memphis for a bit of time around the holidays.
Freeze stopped by his school to talk to their coaches and check on some other players in the last couple weeks, and spent about 30 minutes talking to my friend. Apparently the OM staff is "scared to death" of Alabama and doesn't seem to think they can go head to head with Bama for kids (all of this was said unsolicited - they know what they're up against and will consider it a major win to "steal" anyone from us). They are not comfortable at all with the attention Brandon has been getting from UA recently despite the flip.
Basically, Brandon is a very quiet, impressionable kid and his mind changes from week to week. His mom and others close to him want him at Ole Miss. I saw him about a month ago decked out in Ole Miss gear, but he's the type who might wear a Bama cap the next day. At this point, I think mama wins out, but he could be an Eddie Lacy type who just changes his mind right before he heads to the podium to sign the letter. Anyways - thought it was interesting at least to hear what Freeze was saying about us. He thinks he's "stealing" to get a kid from his own back yard.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by NashTide 19 months ago
Is this a case where we slow played him b/c we did not think he would get his scores up in time to enroll early? Some have said it was a weight problem but I have found that hard to understand considering some of the other guys who have had weights issues taken care of as soon as they enroll at UA (Cody, Fluker, etc). TIA
I'll put it this way....I don't think we ever slow played him or backed off, but I know it's absolute truth that our coaches stayed on his butt all offseason about his weight, grades, etc. and knew they were taking a risk. He committed to Saban the first time around in HS and expected Saban to be all giddy, and Saban's first words were "great, now get your grades straight." Nothing more.
Saban and Groh were not happy at all about the way he handled himself after he committed/signed, and I think that's why his mama may be soured a bit. The perception is that we're not showing him enough love (coddling him.) That's not what Brandon needs. He needs someone to kick his tail for a few months. This is a case where I think our coaches see uncoachable size/talent, but they also see a potential work ethic issue.
If they can get him on campus, they can make him great. If he goes to OM, he may waste away there because they won't be tough on him.
Thanks Nash for the great insight. I am so glad our coaching staff approaches recruiting like they do. It serves as a great "filter" for weeding out kids that don't want to put in hard work. I do not mean that in a disrespectful way at all towards Hill. Hope he decides to come to Bama. If not good luck and on to the next one.
Brandon is a great kid. Really soft-hearted, soft-spoken guy with a lot of joy in his heart and a heck of a football player. I hope he does well wherever he goes. He's had a tough life but has a lot of opportunity in front of him if he makes the right decisions.
But our coaches definitely don't put up with anything. When you commit to UA, you're immediately expected to hold yourself to a higher standard.
Interesting comments Nash Tide. I actually graduated from St. G (well before there was a high school there) and then played for Coach Freeze at Briarcrest when he first became a coach. Knowing him both as a coach and person, I think he's playing a bit more the "aw shucks" role than he actually believes because I can tell you right now he's not someone to be intimidated by Bama or anyone else on the recruiting trail, especially for Memphis kids.
I really hope we get Brandon because I think he will be a very good player under proper tutelage.
Either way, I hope the kid lands on his feet and has a great career. Brandon is just one of those guys you want to succeed. I would love for him to develop under Bama's system, but more than football, I want Brandon to succeed.
GREAT post...this kind of thing happens SO often, and it is often the reason a commit that seemed "solid" may flip with some negative comments to save face (or attempt to) in the process...
1960 Les Paul
C'mon now ... Bobby Massie & Michael Oher say hello ...
I don't know Brandon Hill personally, but judging from a lot of his tweets, it seems like he still has a lot of maturing to do.
How many national championships did those guys win? Oher was going to be a franchise LT wherever he went, and Saban said so the first time he laid eyes on him.
Massie wound up making it but could have been MUCH farther ahead when he came out for the draft.
There are plenty of guys who land in the NFL but still have work ethic issues. Not sure if you saw the HBO special on the Dolphins, but Jerry from OM was a guy they constantly had to ride because he was fat, out of shape, and had a generally bad attitude during training camp.
That's why Saban puts so many kids into the draft and many go in higher rounds than they're projected. NFL GM's and coaches know that any player carries some risk, but Saban's players typically have a higher football IQ and know what it's like to already play in an NFL type program as opposed to hanging out at Club Med for 4 years.
I didn't know Hugh coached those guys.
Well, Hugh coached Oher in high school, but not sure that counts exactly.
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