In partnership with CBSSports.com
Online Now 1398
Online now 1419 Record: 9097 (3/2/2012)
The No. 1 'Bama fan community on the Internet
BOL message board for off-topic posts
Tailgating, recipes, cooking, food & drink
Buy, sell or swap tickets
You have no favorite boards.
The most viewed topics.
The most replied to topics.
The most up-voted topics.
The most down-voted topics.
The most up-voted posters.
The most down-voted posters.
The most followed posters.
Last year, the SEC passed new rules on "over-signing," including an annual 25-man limit for conference teams. This year, UGA coach Mark Richt told the AJC that he expects to finish with a recruiting class of between 30-35 players. The Bulldogs already have 30 commitments for 2013, with at least a couple of more targets on both sides of the ball. How can that be? How can UGA sign 30-35 if there's a new rule with a 25-man limit? "Early enrollees." Early enrollees is a loophole created by the SEC when it talked tough and passed the over-signing rules last year.
Atlanta Journal Constitution
If this is really the case might we have more spots left than some were originally speculating? CNS is not one to overlook a loophole.
Last year, the SEC passed new rules on
Nothing new there. Back counting is something Saban has mastered and everyone is well aware of the practice and how to use it.
We don't. We still have to stay under the 85 man limit, and with only 8 or 9 seniors and a few early entries, there is no way we could sign that many.
Saban is already doing this.
On Alabama: CeCe Jefferson - "It was a bunch of beautiful women..." Reggie Ragland - "oh the females of course..."
The related point is that if these numbers hold up UGA will have signed 96 players over 4 years to UA with 94 over that same period. LSU with 98.
In a era where UA has had 10 players leave early for the NFL.
How in the hell does UGA use this against us in recruiting again? Do they think everybody is stupid?
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by manbearpig7 16 months ago
I agree mbp. It is old, very old, seeing the self righteous musings of the AJC and Georgia fans about Coach Saban's recruiting "tactics". I guess now that their anointed one is doing the same things, within the rules I might add, they do not seem quite as contrary as they once did. Losing with one of the most talented teams Richt has had I guess helps change perspective.
I'm certainly not an expert, but as I understood the 25-man limit, it only affects fall enrollment. The number to remember is 85, as in the maximum allowable number of players any team can have on scholarship at one time.
Early enrollment does many things, among them it provides a means to add more than 25 new players in the new calendar year. If a school graduates players early, like the summer before the season began or in December, technically, those scholarships are available to give to new signees on January 1st. Some of those early enrollee scholarships are back dated to replace players who left the team or had to give up football after the beginning of Fall Semester. Summer and December graduations are an important part of the Alabama program. So too, is knowing who are those early draft departures. While we won't know until after January 7th, I'll bet you Coach Saban knows.
Now, if a top Junior changes his mind and stays,,,, a high schooler could be told to sit out a year.
As for Georgia, some of those kids will miss getting in because of their grades. Some already know they won't get it. Still, for many kids on National Signing Day to sign a LOI with a big time school is a dream come true.
It this was Saban and Bama instead of Richt and Georgia, there would be a national outcry against the evil Saban and how he is "cheating" the system by oversigning.
Funny, but we used to sign that many every year. Who does it hurt to sign so many? Parity. We have taken away college for countless numbers of deserving kids in the name of parity.
The key to the stat is GA currently has just 69 scholarship players, 16 under cap. Every team can sign 25 per year so over 4 yrs any team can conceiveably sign 100, but still must stay under 85 cap. So with normal or abnormal attrition its not unusal for a school to sign around a 100 in a 4 yr period. Keep in mind just a few yrs ago bama's 4 yr total was 118 and lsu was 116.
That's the basic point of the oversigning discussion. How do you sign 108 players over the last five years and end up with 69 on scholarship thus making room for a monster incoming class? Is that number really correct? Some will argue without any evidence that the attrition isn't normal. I don't really care either way and don't think it's a big deal but it's ridiculous for Saban to take virtually all of the heat for it even from other coaches doing the exact same thing like Ritch and Spurrier.
This post was edited by manbearpig7 16 months ago
Under the NCAA rules you can sign 250 as long as only 25 enroll and there are no more than 85 on scholarship. However after Ole Miss signed 40 that year there was an outcry from national media especially among those in the B1G conference, the SEC limited only signing 25 a year.
Well in Ole Sis' defense their edumacation in arithmetic tells them that 40 < 25 ......
I know but because it's UGA no one will say or print a word. The AJC has been one of the worst to cry foul when Alabama has signed more than 25 so it will be interesting how they react.
1st of all ....the AJC is a rag, dont read it for anything beyond comic relief.
1.the term "oversigning" is an oxymoron. the rule is simple 25/85 & you cant go over therefore for anyone to suggest that one could "oversign" is idiotic.
2.25/85 its not that difficult to understand. 25 in a "year" & 85 overall
3.scholarships are based on the calender year not season to season.
4.our public school system must suck
247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports