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Remembering back to the 2009 SEC CG against UF, I think it was Danielson that made the comment that the Gators had a real opportunity to become a "Dynasty" by beating 'Bama that day but it wasn't to be. They were certainly a great team but in his estimation they just missed out on being one of the greats of all time. So that put a question in my head.
Do you think that having won 2 out of 3 NC Titles (like UF did) cements 'Bama as a Dynasty already, or do they need to win again this year to really cement their legacy in College Football Lore?
I think we are witnessing a historic run by our beloved Crimson Tide right now but I want there to be no question EVER that these are some of the most DOMINANT teams EVER!!!
I see things through crimson tent( at least) glasses so I'll say one more in the next 3 years then yes especially when you consider its in the BCS era. Very dominant to say the least .
We had this discussion several weeks ago with some really good opinions on the requirements to be considered a Dynasty. I personally believe that we are on the brink of it... but not quite yet. One more championship over the next 1-3 years and yes, we are a dynasty.
I agree with both of you.....+1's to you both.
Wish I had seen the other discussion...I really believe that 'Bama has as good a shot at winning it all this year as anyone else. Winning a NC three out of four years would definitely be a dynasty! Is there something more than a dynasty?
We've had 2 dynasties at Alabama. The Wade Wallace Dynasty that lasted about 7 years and won 3 NC's. Then there was the Bryant Dynasty that won 6 NC's in 24 years. The later being the greatest in all of CFB if not of every sport. Saban is currently building his own dynasty but I would like to see at least 3 NC's before we can call it a real dynasty. He personally won 3 NC's but dynasty's need to be at the same team IMO.
I would classify Bama as a team with rich tradition and if not the greatest CFB tradition then 1 of the top 2-3. You have to mention Bama in any discussion on who has the best team of all time.
I have always considered a Dynasty as 3 championships in 5 years. So we are close IMO but not yet.
I would like to have us win a three peat, we were cheated out of one in the 60's that would
cement the deal
Looking at the whole body of work,I would say yes.We are at the beginning stages of the greatest football dynasty ever! When all is said and done,Saban will have created the greatest dynasty college football has ever known!!
Yeah dynasty or not depends on what someones definition of a dynasty is, which can vary greatly. What we know for sure is: the kind of run we are on right now with recruiting and results on the field over a stretch of 4+ years is extremely rare. In the world of conference expansions an playoffs we may never see another one like it.
We were also cheated out of one in the late seventies.
I'll say again... 3 in 4 yrs does it for me without question.. BUT even 2 in 3yrs, given th ferociousness we hav won with at times th past 3 yrs, then I'd say YES th Dynasty is upon us! Hence, my username, CrimDyn..
Please study up on Frank Leahy, Bud Wilkinson, Paul W. Bryant and Bobby Bowden.
This post was edited by RockyRaccoon 23 months ago
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
If we can repeat or win another NC in the next couple of years we will be a Dynasty.
I think the only thing anyone will have on Saban when its all said and done is the length of time it takes. He won't coach here for 30 years.... but I wouldn't give funny eyes to the idea that this could definitely be the "beginning stages" of the greatest dynasty ever. The future still has to play out, but its quite the start already with no signs of slowing.
Let's win the next 3 NC's just to be sure...
Firstly, it doesn't take longevity to make a dynasty.
Frank Leahy won four titles in the five years he coached from 1943-1949 (he skipped '44 & '45 to serve in the military during the war). During those five seasons Notre Dame lost once with a winning percentage of .938.
Barry Switzer only coached at Oklahoma for 16 years in total. Oklahoma's primary dynastic period during his time was from 1973-1980. In those eight years he won two NC's and won or shared all eight Big 8 Championships with a winning percentage of .883.
And the kicker of it all is Bryant. The man with whom all comparisons must begin. And you could choose either of his dynasties.
From 1961-1966 Alabama won three NC's and four SEC Championships in six seasons with a winning percentage of .909.
From 1971-1979 Alabama won three NC's and eight SEC Championships in nine seasons with a winning percentage of .898.
Thus far, Alabama's run under Saban is two NC's and one SEC Championships in four seasons with a winning percentage of .889.
After seeing the data, it is pretty clear this Alabama team over the next four years has to maintain a torrid pace to even match Switzer's Oklahoma run.
And, furthermore, can you truly be in consideration for "greatest dynasty ever" if you aren't even the greatest in school history? Switzer's pales in comparison to Wikinson's just as Saban's does Bryant's.
This current run is remarkable, no question, but lets not lose our minds and forget what happened just 50 years ago.
This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by RockyRaccoon 23 months ago
If Saban matches his own record over the next three years as he had in the last three years (2 NCs out of 3 years), then I think, without doubt, that is a dynasty. Would it be the greatest of all time, probably close... and that is giving NO consideration for how difficult it is now as compared to when there were no limits on scholarships and all of the other things that make the current situation more difficult. If one considers the times, it may well be the greatest college football dynasty ever...
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