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Was listening to Blake eddins on Jox today. (He works on the Arkansas broadcast team and admittedly roots against bama due to growing up an aub). He talked about how surprised he is that coach grant takes the air out of ball so especially considering the type of players we have on our team. Blake was very commentary of coach grant and our "hybrid" players. He said we rank near the bottom of the NCAA in pace of play.
This got me thinking what if coach grant is "over coaching" the team. Maybe he feels so much pressure to be successful that he can't let the players go play. Then us losing has caused him try and take more control and pushed him to slow us down even more when he should be letting go more.
In golf this would be a guy gets in contention then starts trying to guide the ball as opposed to hitting shots. In every sport there are examples of people responding to pressure by trying to get more control and it ends up hurting them instead of helping.
I'd love to see coach grant let our players go play. For 3 years I've felt that he coaches tight and the slow down half court stuff doesn't fit our players who are more athletic than they are skilled. We are taking the advantage we might have, our great athleticism, and minimizing it by playing a style of basketball that relies too heavily on precision and fundamentals.
What are y'all's thoughts on this?
I'll be honest that towards the end of gotfrieds reign I began to have similar thoughts in regards to system however I never thought he was over coaching our players. If anything under coaching while forcing them to play a highly technical system.
I think CAG rules with an iron fist. (Insert GIF of him wanting to strangle Releford Courtside). I also think his system will work and win a lot of games. However, I wish on offense he would try to adapt to the players he has other than inserting a few new wrinkles. I get what you are saying the "over coaching" and at times the team looks tight. Think theres some truth this season because I have seen such an increase of mental lapses. At times it's just plain sloppy.
Ive felt this he was for a while and it doesnt bother me. He comes across as a tough silent SOB who doesnt mind losing if things are being done his way. The best coaches are stubborn a-holes. I still think coach grant wins big before his career ends. Honestly, it may not be at Alabama.
Pressure?? What pressure? This is Alabama basketball we're talking about.
The main problem I see with Grant is roster management. This team has shown flashes of being a really good team when everyone is healthy. I know injuries are part of the game, but in his fourth year he should have more than 10 scholarship players on the team.
I'm thinking the same thing. I think his brand of basketball and defense really relies on a good rebounding team on both ends to keep it simple.
When you say the "doesnt fit our players who are more athletic", I would like to know who on our team you think is athletic? None of our players except for Pollard have demonstrated any sort of next level athleticism. Nick Jacobs cant run or jump period. Releford has some quickness and great hands but isnt very athletic. Lacy isnt either and while Randolph has some fast twitch moments he doesnt display much athleticism. Moussa cant get out of his own way and that leaves Cooper and Steele...no they arent either.
When i think back on the last 30 years of Tide hoops these are the names I associate with Athletic:
I am probably leaving out a few but we have nobody on our team, save Pollard, who is even in the same discussion as these guys.
Its still a big time job and a big moment in his career. I feel pressure at my job because of what success and failure could mean to my family and my future.
sadly we are something like 300th nationally in rebounding currently.
Lacey, Pollard, Randolph and Cooper are all very athletic players who seem better suited for a faster style of play than they do for a high precision style of basketball.
Anyone of those 4 guys are as athletic as Tony Mitchell. However, your list is a snap shot of some great players who were elite athletes. Just because the 4 I mentioned aren't as athletic as Gerald Wallace or Latrell Spreewell doesn't mean they aren't athletic.
I do think you are short changing the level of athleticism on our team and my guess is that is a direct result of the style of basketball we play. Also, my guess is you are focusing more on ability to jump, dunk and block shots than all of the other ways that players can be "athletic".
This is .....ALABAMA BASKETBALL.
Not the basketball I grew up enjoying and rooting for, but sadly I think it is what we have been recruited to be.
He is 100% correct in my opinion. The only time we score consistently is when we are in transisition or driving and dishing. It's not hard to see if you have watched us play enough.
None of those four are as athletic as Mitchell. Lacey is no where close to him athletically. He is a better basketball player though.
Pollard shows he may be as athletic. Cooper is the one I think could be great, but Randolph, and I love his play, is nothing more than a role player.
Agree to disagree as this is completely opinion.
I appreciate your post though.
I don't know if he is overcoaching or not, but I do believe he is battling some personnel and youth problems. We're really missing a quality big man who can rebound and score. We also only have two guys playing who have spent more than two years in this program. In contrast, Florida's top seven scorers all have been in their program 2+ years. Next season we will have eight guys in their third or fourth seasons under Grant. The experience should pay dividends. We still have some things to fight for this year though.
I'm not exactly sure how you would define overcoaching, but the one thing you have to do to play on his team is buy in into giving effort and playing defense. Alabama is a transition team, it's going to press and try and wear opponents down.
Having said that, yes, the coaching staff did get caught with the roster numbers and is now trying to get a bunch of young guys to grow up quickly. We'll see how well it goes here down the stretch.
Christopher Walsh covers Alabama football for BamaOnline, 247Sports, and is the author of 18 books.
I've always written off the pace of play as a result of the roster issues. However, there always seems to be something beyond just depth holding us back. Something like he doesn't have faith or maybe its that they haven't earned the right to be "let go". Like Walsh said, these guys have to commit to playing hard. I've hoped that if the players commit and prove to coach grant they can do it maybe he would up the pace a little.
Nice basketball discussion in this thread.
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Shooters on this squad consistently pass up good shots early in the shot clock. It's got to be systematic.
I can only suppose CAG is trying to shorten the game
Well having everyone play hard is a problem with this team. The only time I have seen Jacobs play hard all game long was the Kentucky game which was his best game of the year due to him actually putting in the effort which is a big reason we won that game. That and Cooper had his best game of the year to in that game, it was the only time I remember him working curls mutlitple times to get open jumpers on the 10 foot elbow which he hit a number of in that game.
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