In partnership with CBSSports.com
Online Now 1581
Online now 434 Record: 9097 (3/2/2012)
The No. 1 'Bama fan community on the Internet
BOL message board for off-topic posts
Tailgating, recipes, cooking, food & drink
Buy, sell or swap tickets
You have no favorite boards.
The most viewed topics.
The most replied to topics.
The most up-voted topics.
The most down-voted topics.
The most up-voted posters.
The most down-voted posters.
The most followed posters.
changing? I and everyone else knew in the stadium that we were going to run the ball in 2009. I enjoyed the fact we wore teams down, we made their ass quit. In honesty we have been good this year in big plays and in the red zone. Somehow I feel we have lost some of that toughness we were know for. I admittedly am old school and an old fart, but I miss those line it up and smash the guy in front of you until he gives up days.
I just can't believe our 2009 line was better than this years. I can't believe we don't have (2) 1000 yard rushers this year. I can't believe we are trying to be a passing team. I am not sure if personally I am liking what I see our Offense going to. Maybe I am still just shocked about Sat. Anyway, RTR guys, I love our team.
Right there with ya Cosmo. I long for the days when teams couldn't get us off the field in the 4rth quarter.
I think our coaches have more trust in our quarterback to make plays and thus we are trying to be as balanced as possible. I think in 2009, we had more confidence in our RB's to make plays. This year I think we have more confidence that our qb will make the play. I don't know which I like better. I would prefer to run the ball more than we do, but we probably needed to change some to keep up with the times.
I would say unfortunately yes. A&M and LSU did to us in back-to-back weeks what we used to do to teams. Run the ball, control the clock, and wear teams down. Now that we are bigger and more talented up front we do not do that anymore. Not sure being balanced (which we aren't as we throw the ball more than we run it) is all it's cracked up to be.
Our D was gassed in the 4th qtr in both of those games.
Anyone that watched his offense with Jake Locker should understand he loves to put a lot of faith in his QB. That's not a bad thing, it's just his style and obviously Saban trusts him and has given him the ability to do it his way.
Every team has a different mindset & different make up of players. 09 was a team that refused to be denied. We haven't seen that since imho. There is a reason that team went 14-0 & won several close games.
New Member of The 247 Crew!
Too much passing means too much "belly rubbing" at practice as Bear used to say!
I'm a firm believer that every championship team will have a moment or a game where you want to run the ball, and everybody in the stadium knows you want to run the ball. Championship teams are able to run it anyway. 09 and even 08 teams, we could tell you on 3rd and 3 we were running it and almost what hole we were going to, and there just wasn't a damned thing anybody could do about it. I think this line could have done that, over 4 tries. I didn't like the pass on first down, but whatever. When Lacy got stuffed on 2nd down, I knew 2 passes were coming. Let's handle Western Carolina and beat the dog crap out of Auburn. If they score I'll be upset. Consider me bloodthirsty, but we owe them a beat down in BDS.
"Quit trying to make a play and do your job!"
I am not so sure that the identity is changing so much as the personnel has changed. Alabama will always be a physical team that wants to run the ball and have balance, but right now they have an experienced QB and some big play WR's which have allowed CNS and staff to open up the playbook a little more than in the past. Also Alabama's opponents know the Crimson Tide's identity and have been loading the box to force Alabama to throw the ball. There were several times against A&M that both safeties were walked up and they were in man press across the board in order to take away the run and force Alabama to throw the ball over the top to beat them.
Follow me on twitter @TrevorHewettBOL. https://twitter.com/#!/TrevorHewettBOL
Exactly Trevor....& this is the part of the game most fans have been wanting to see for years now. All of a sudden when we lose. We're passing the ball too much?
Nuss did not call plays at Washington. Sark did.
Well did you see TJ fumble the ball? Did you know Lacy had his bell rung so bad from that helmet-to-helmet hit that its still bothering him? Add that in to your calculator when trying to decide to run it on that last series. Not to mention we had a QB that had already thrown for 300yrds and had proved awesome in winning games.
I dont like where we are headed as an offense at all. If these last two weeks are whar having a playmaker at QB is all about just give me a game manager.
I prefer our current offense if it works. Obviously it isn't working all the time so winning while running it 40 times is preferable
And if the 2009 Tennessee team had a decent FG kicker then this statement is never made....
Every year requires a lot of luck....
I don't really agree with the notion that the mindset has suffered or that the 2009 team just tried harder or wanted it more.
It appears to me our identity changed, by necessity, when Jalston Fowler got hurt. Our power running game plan for this season was centered around the untamed beast...either as a lead blocker or as a ball carrier. Don't get me wrong, we have great RB's (TJ may be one of the best ever when its all said and done) but, at this point in this season, they are more likely to make a defender miss than to run over him.
Had more leadership is more of my point. That was the only year leadership was head & shoulder's above the last couple of years imho.
I have absolutely no way of evaluating that...but I suspect that it isn't true. I suppose that it's possible that Barrett Jones, AJ, Lester, Nico, whoever are poor leaders compared to Ingram, Ro, Gmac, Woodall (haha), whatever...but I doubt it.
Here are the stats on a per game basis
Run - 43 attempts per game, 5.0 yards per carry
Pass - 25 attempts per game, 7.6 yards per attempt
Run - 36 attempts per game, 5.1 yards per carry
Pass - 26 attempts per game, 7.8 yards per attempt
Run - 39 attempts per game, 5.5 yards per carry
Pass - 28 attempts per game, 7.4 yards per attempt
Run - 39 attempts per game, 5.2 yards per carry
Pass - 25 attempts per game, 9.2 yards per attempt
In reality, we are running the ball about as much as we did last year, though a little less effectively. We are much more explosive in the passing game than we have ever been this year.
We'll have to agree to disagree then. But imho the 09 team is Saban's best all around team. In all 3 facets of the game combined. & that is the reason it's his only unbeaten team. That team also beat two teams back to back that hadn't lost a game in UF & Texas. Also beat like 8 or 9 bowl teams that year.
People aren't taking into account everything that happened during the game.
247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports