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Knowing the position we are in now, when CNS leaves, whenever that is we could more than likely have our pick of replacements.
With that being said, would you want Kirby retained, given a raise, and title of HCIW?
I think this is an interesting scenario, if UA and UGA are his dream jobs then this would put him virtually in this position.
If he goes to somewhere like AU, Alabama will still be successful, but he would have a huge impact negatively on our recruiting in the state of GA. Every recruit we get out of there raves about Kirby and he has deep ties with his dad being a high school coach in GA. Even the ones we miss on (J. Jenkins, Re. Foster) say Kirby is what they love.
Just something to ponder.
I'm a big Kirby fan, but do you really want a guy with no HC experience taking over at one of the biggest pressure cookers in college football and trying to follow in the footsteps of a coach that is going to go down as one of the top couple HC's ever? That sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. If Kirby is every to become the HC at Alabama, he needs to get HC experience first and show that he is a quality HC.
Never liked that idea...until now.
Doesnt the HCIW tittle come with recruiting restrictions? If so then no way. Kirby is one of our best recruiters. Given restrictions it would not be worth it to me.
Yes it comes with restrictions which is why i would be way against this HCIW. Besides Saban will likely be here at least another 5 years. I say let him be a HC elsewhere and once he gets some experience bring him back.
He would still have to beat Saban on the field! They have some of the best recruiters on the Plains right now but they can't develop players. Their best usually comes from Junior College ranks where they learn how to play.
Kirby would be the AU's Ray Goff.
I can't blame them for trying. I want to be like my Big Brother too!
A coach in waiting is NEVER a good thing. Coach SABAN is our coach and will be for years more. I mean seriously guys, this program is not the elite program it is because of Kirby Smart. Please please don't get me wrong. I love what Kirby does for our team and for our defense. He compliments Coach Saban perfectly. But so could others and this teams success is NOT again repeat NOT because we hired a Dcorr. It's because of Coach Saban.
I DO NOT want to run him out the door and that is all your saying by making another coach the waiting head man. You can only have one leader and we have the best. When Kirby Smart does leave for a head coaching job, we will remain exactly what we are with another great hire as Dcorr. Sure, it may take time to get things as smooth as now, but Coach Smart and Coach Saban were not this smooth at the beginning together either.
Saying this, I would love to keep CKS as long as we can. It works well. But we all know he's going somewhere, sometime.
Yes, Head coaches in waiting are a thing of the past. NCAA put and end to it.
Good post +1
No to the HCIW title.
However, I am all for Kirby being the next head coach. IMO, he would be the best candidate for the job. Muschamp is a good example of the fact that you don't need to have head coaching experience.
I am certainly not an insider, but I do know this, second hand. Paul Bryant Jr. in conversations has discussed his interest in Saban taking over for Mal Moore when he retires, perhaps being both HC and AD for a year, then moving strictly to the AD only role and Smart moving into the HC position. This, IMO, would give Smart the best possible chance to be successful. Although he certainly would put his own stamp on he program, his mentor would be just down the hall when he wants advice. And Saban would make an outstanding AD. And we know he already has shown a great interest in all Alabama sports being successful.
Would Saban take the AD job? Who knows? I am 100% convinced, however, that the BOT will make Saban tell them no before anyone else is offered. And under that scenario, I think Smart would do an outstanding job.
Kirby Smart working under Nick Saban would in no way resemble Mike Dubose working under Bob Bockrath.
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We need to remember how we got to where are now! For the first time since Coach Bryant we went out and did what ever it took to get the best proven, head coach we could possibly get! We were just lucky for a change and got the best coach in college football. I love CKS, but he is not a proven head coach at all, and we have made this mistake before, Coach Dubose, coach Shula. He may be a great head coach one day, but he has to prove it some where and the odds are against him. It shows how desperate the barn are, could you imagine BAMA wanting a coordinator at auburn who played at Tenn, NEVER! Everybody tried to hire Pete Carroll when at USC Asst. Thinking they were getting the secret. There is no secret, it's BAMA's program, Tradition, and CNS! You cannot hire that away, if you hired CNS you only have half. I think they are grasping at straws and it has the makings for a disaster, I just hate see CKS ruin his career!
I don't think there's any chance Saban would take an AD job. That's just not his style. When he retires as head coach, he'll retire to his lake house. I'm kinda up in the air with Kirby. It seems like we tried to this after Bryant retired, and it didn't work out. I say we go for the top names out there. If they turn us down, Kirby wouldn't be a bad choice.
If he goes it has nothing to do with where is allegiance lies. It is about $ and becoming a head coach at a major college, period. His allegiance is with Georgia people. He played there. I know he turned them down last year, but that would have been a lateral move and there were concerns with Richt and his job security. Wish him the best. We have the best coach in America. Every year we lose assistants and CNS plugs the hole with another superior coach.
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