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Notre Dame had no business being on the field with us. They were not the best team in the country regardless of their #1 ranking. It's not that Alabama played an outstanding game (we didn't have to), it was just that ND was a terrible team. The top two teams in the country did not play each other because the media wanted an Alabama vs. Notre Dame matchup. In fact, ND has been given elevated rankings throughout 2012 even though they played down to their competition. Even CyrusK talked about how they knew ND was a fraud when the film showed Boston College pushing them around. They belonged in the BBVA Compass Bowl playing Ole Miss, and I believe the Rebels would've probably won by 4. I knew something was up when a reporter asked Saban about comparing Georgia with Notre Dame's defense. CNS said "Georgia is big, fast, and strong. Notre Dame is big." If that isn't an underhanded statement I don't know what is.
Don't give me the "Brian Kelly is a great coach" line. They threw constantly at the #1 rated Cornerback for the 2012 draft while Sunseri who arguably is the weakest in pass coverage wasn't thrown at once. Louis Nix was dominated most of the night. Everett Golson would be third string QB at UAB. AJ McCarron had more touchdown passes than Manti Teo had tackles. And their defensive coordinator thought it would be a good idea to put a linebacker to cover Amari Cooper.
We as fans got short-handed by media execs. It should've been a Texas A&M/Alabama rematch or Oregon/Alabama. As unpopular as it would've been, it would've been the better game.
ATM with 2 losses and the fact we had a Western div national title game last year.... it wouldnt have happened on this planet. Though I do agree that ATM was playing great towards the end of the season.
I understand what you're saying, but ND won all of their games. There is something to be said for that. I know they weren't pretty, but they still won. They had to be there. It would have been hard to justify putting another one loss team in the game over them. It's the system that is in place. Maybe not a great system, but the one that we have right now. There was no way to keep them out.
Teams in the MAC go undefeated all the time. Notre Dame was essentially a MAC team.
I knew they didn't belong on the field with us a long time ago. That's why I was rooting so hard for them to beat USC.
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I agree to a certain extent. However, Notre Dame was the only undefeated team in the nation. They were the number one team in the nation essentially by default. It's just unfortunate for them that Kansas St. lost. Oregon would have exposed them as well.
Also, look at their schedule. On paper, it looks daunting. Oklahoma, USC, Stanford, Michigan, Michigan St. sounds like a difficult schedule. It later turned out not to be as difficult as it looked but hindsight is always 20/20. Being the only undefeated team in the country meant that they were going to be in championship game like it or not. We didn't get short handed by media execs, ND was undefeated and number one in the BCS. It couldn't happen any other way at that point.
Also, Alabama played an outstanding game. No turnovers, very few penalties, took advantage of all opportunities, was over prepared for everything ND threw out there, and executed the game plan with extraordinary precision. The fact that ND was overmatched both physically and mentally was just icing on the cake.
Brian Kelly is a good coach. There is no way you take that team to an undefeated season without some coaching acumen. But last He just had a knife at a gun fight. He knew it as soon as Alabama ran right threw them on the first touchdown drive. Also, they actually went at Sunseri a couple of times and made a couple of completions on him. You are right though. I expected the tight end to be in the slot most of the night and for them to exploit mismatches. It never materialized. But really, what were they going to do last night? They were not going to run the ball successfully. Once we got ahead by a few touchdowns, that was the ball game.
Notre Dame was not a MAC team. I understand how bad they looked last night. But honestly, how many teams outside of the SEC wouldn't look the exact same? Also, no MAC team or any other mid major would go through ND's schedule undefeated.
I get what you are trying to say. ND was an average team. But with the way Alabama played last night, over 95% of the teams in the country would have received the same beat down.
It isn't ND's fault their schedule sucked. At the beginning of the season it seemed like the hardest in the nation. Way better than a MAC schedule. They practically played a BCS schedule... with what should have been quality B1G, Big 12 and Pac-whatever games. Granted... they didn't belong in the game with hindsight being what it is... but their road to respect was fair. Just turned out not to be as valuable W's as they appeared when originally earned.
What's a shame is that if there was a playoff system this year, Florida (yes, the same Florida that got embarrassed by Louisville) would've been one of the four teams, while Georgia would've been punished for losing the SECCG and wouldn't make it into the playoffs at all.
Exactly. I take great satisfaction at seeing Alabama beat the crap out of a 12-0 Notre Dame team. Not sure why someone would try to downplay our victory.
So true. They had a quality schedule and they went undefeated. It wasn't ND's fault that their opponents didn't turn out to be very good. And beating Stanford (yes, I know they had an assist) was a quality win. It just happened that we got the easiest possible team this year. That's the breaks.
Actually I applaud ND for finally making an attempt at a big-time schedule. No longer are they going to get any acclaim by beating the service academies, Pitt, Northwestern (the old Northwestern that is), Purdue and Boston College, etc. Back in the day they could do that and still get the No. 1 ranking, as well as a Heisman if they happen to have a good player.
I really don't understand why you need to bash ND. I'm thinking about next season.
Look at it this way, the playoff should help to solve the problem of such a glaring mismatch occurring again in the title game. The beauty of it is that the last championship game in this system has Alabama crushing Notre Dame for a national championship at their expense to replace one of those decades ago that we should have received.
In my opinion the biggest problem college football faces is the "undefeated" problem. When the five major conferences had some parity the "undefeated" teams were a good match up typically. This is just so far from accurate now. Ohio State nor Notre Dame were any match for Alabama this year. Kansas State (had they beaten Baylor) not in the same class either. No disrespect to those teams because they were good teams and coached well but just not in the same class talent wise.
We all think Oregon could have competed and I do think they would have been our toughest matchup though NO WAY they could have stopped our running game and play action game. BUT they would have scored thus keeping pressure on us to execute on offense.
Notre Dame couldn't have finished in the Top 4 of the SEC this year and maybe not the Top 6. Bama, A&M, Georgia were all MUCH better teams and LSU, Florida and South Carolina were likely better.
So what's the answer? I of course like the idea of the Plus-1 or 4 team playoff but I also don't want to see Bama winning a thriller in Atlanta and then playing them again a month later. Any doubt in both '08 and '09 that the championship would have been an AL v FL rematch? If so, what's the point of the SECCG??
I kind of like knowing win in Atlanta and you've likely won it all.
no kidding... And let the record state that the OP is most definitely not saying what I am thinking
"We as fans got short-handed by media execs. It should've been a Texas A&M/Alabama rematch or Oregon/Alabama. As unpopular as it would've been, it would've been the better game."
I will be very interested to see how TA&M holds up against us next season. They don't catch us late in the season & right after our most physical game against LSU like they did this year. I say that to say this. I don't feel TA&M would've faired much better than ND with BAMA having 30+ days to prepare.
Battlestar... as you can see... I completely agree with you:
Notre Dame very much so deserved to be there based on their season.
That being said, I could seriously name about 11/12 teams that were better.
THAT being said, nobody in the country was beating us last night
The SEC Championship game WAS the National Championship.
We could say the same for Texas and LSU also right? LSU didn't muster anything against us. Texas got back in the game because we basically relaxed. But neither team had a chance and it was obvious. Texas' no.1 ranked rush defense? Two 100+ yard backs. It has less to do with the opponent and more to do with Bama.
And A&M couldn't happen with two losses this year. Much like UGA a few years ago with Stafford/Moreno and company. They were great at the end of the year, but the beginning of the year counts also.
IMO the media got there BSU BCS NCG except Notre Dame is a name. The fact is there is not another conf that compares with the SEC. They like to think the ducks would have given Alabama a game but the truth is AJ's girl would have shared time with the ducks cheerleaders & the out come would have been the same.
I don't completely disagree, but I don't completely agree either. Notre Dame was not the best team suited to play Alabama last night, but that's not the way CFB has decided its champion for the last 100 years. The national championship has always been a recognition for the entire body of work, not to give a trophy to team for getting hot late in the year. Notre Dames entire body of work entitled them to be there, but clearly Oregon and aTm are superior teams right now. I personally like the current system but that's probably because my team has won 15 titles with that system.
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