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I just worry here about falling into a "Bryant guy" all over again. Bama's past has proven that just because you learned from "the guy," it doesn't make you "the guy." I hope they first try what try did with Saban and go after the best of the best regardless of program ties.
Just like all the decisions in this house. I make them but let my husband "think" he made it!
Give Saban a lifetime contract.
I hope he coaches several more years, as long as he wants.
At this point, I would love for Kirby to be our next Coach.
Interesting to see what happens.
Would love for Kirby to be back next year!
How likely is paying Smart small time HC money? Say 1.5, 1.75mil a year? Make it worth his while to stay. He's vital to recruiting. Blah blah blah Saban and Lance and Pruitt. Kirby Smart owns Georgia and Georgia is a gold mine year in and year out. Paying him like a head coach to keep that pipe line open and to keep him at home, to me, would be worth it. Remember return on investment........his is extremely high.
You'll never achieve great things until you believe that's what's supposed to happen
Agreed. Hope it happens, wasn't Auburn paying Gus 1. something mill a few years ago?
I agree and want Kirby as next coach. However, I also wanted Dubose as did many.
I think it will depend on who either retires or leaves first MR or Coach Saban.
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I am in the minority here, but I never want to hire another coach with no head coaching experience.
Every year, I do not Kirby to leave, but at ome point I would like for him to prove himself as a worth
HEAD coach while Coach Saban is still here.
Is it me, or is there way too much Saban/NFL talk ITT. Lucky, you were on the record a couple of months ago saying there was virtually no chance he'd leave for the NFL ... seems like you've backpedaled just a bit.
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I have heard him make a pretty compelling case why he wasn't happy in the NFL... primarily lack of total control, pro player attitudes and less coachability than college kids, and the business atmosphere were everyone shows up and does their job and then goes home. The college environment has a different positive energy level, at least SEC schools. Money shouldn't be an issue when he's making $5+ mil per year, and we'd give hom more if he wanted it. It's about quality of life at this stage. The only concern I have, and I doubt it's enough for him to act on, is the ego/competitive piece. There probably is a part of him that wants to dominate pro ball like he has college. But I thing the aforementioned factors, his age, Terry, proximity to Lake Burton, and the opportunity to go down as maybe the best college coach ever if he keeps up this pace for awhile probably keeps him here till the end. At least that's what I'm telling myself.
If Saban ever gets a divorce, then I'll worry about him going to the NFL.
Unless that happens---IT ain't happnin', for ANY money.
I want Bret Bielema at Alabama when Saban retires. Hiring an unproven assistant is such a big gamble. We've been down that road before (Dubose).
If we can't get Bielema (and I say we could), I would have to see who else is out there at the time. The person must:
1) Have a solid winning % (Bielema's is 75%)
2) Believe in a strong run game - no pass-happy junk
3) Coach a tough, physical defense
I don't care what region they come from and I don't give a rat's behind if he has any ties to Alabama.
If there isn't a proven head coach that meets this criteria, I would be okay with giving KS a shot, but only if there isn't a proven head coach who meets my big 3 available.
My misgivings about hiring Kirby can be summed up in 2 words: Gomer Jones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomer_Jones
BTW, my DREAM is for Kirby to go to a non-SEC school and prove his mettle first. If he had 3-5 years head coaching experience with a solid record, ABSOLUTELY. If that isn't the case, we would be taking a HUUUUUGE gamble. Hiring someone's assistant isn't the same thing as hiring a younger, more energetic clone of the head coach. Bobby Williams was Saban's right-hand man at Michigan State, and he bombed as head coach. I could give a million other examples. There are zero guarantees Kirby would be successful.
75%, huh? Let's see what Bret's W/L % is after 5-years in the SEC, OK?
You can go on and on about how great he is - and he may be all you believe him to be. Yet, he's NEVER played the first year of a typical SEC season. Until he's done what Kevin Sumlin and Will Muschamp have done by their 2nd seasons in the SEC, Bret is an unproven commodity.
Saban hails from West Virginia and had no previous ties to the University. For all we know, he could be coaching at the Capstone for the next 11-years, or so. I'm not in any hurry to begin planning for his successor, Kirby Smart, notwithstanding.
Your misgivings about hiring Kirby are an opinion you're entitled to have. I happen to believe he'll win wherever he lands. But, that's my opinion...
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Beliema needs t prove he is an excellent recruiter before I'd want him at Bama. I agree about hiring an asst. but I'd be willing to give Kirby a shot. He has the charisma, discipline, character, intensity, knowledge etc to be a great HC. Bob Stoops and Mark Richt both have done fabulous jobs as HCs and neither were HCs before getting big time gigs. Is it likely Kirby will be as successful as Saban? No, but then again...who could we go get that would have a good chance of being as successful as Saban? The pool is very small...
Can we let the "retire" thing go in regards to Saban. The man is only 60...that's the new 50 nowadays. I'm 63 and believe me.....we "ain't" old!!! lol I drive a BWM Z4 for God's sake!!
for God's sake *smile*
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