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Wouldn't this be the same thing as Shapero telling everything to the NCAA? What if Shapero told his lawyer to cooperated with the NCAA?
If the NCAA is paying the attorney, then they may be his client.
Agreed to or not, there are strict limits on when an attorney can represent two clients in a related matter. Basically, they don't want an attorney in a position where advocated for one client harms another (he has to hurt one client by his choice of action or inaction).
Permission can readily waive confidentiality, it can't always waive conflict of interest.
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Guys, put aside your hate of Miami and comprehend what is the bigger story here. This is about the corrupt NCAA!
1. NCAA was sending letters to whom they felt were going to give them into and many wouldn't testify. So, miami was sent a letter that said the players who would not testify or give them the information the NCAA deemed useful, they, the U, would be found guilty of that information they wanted to ask for.
2. And this Is so important: NCAA is taking a CONVICTED LIAR's word. Nevin Shapiro is nothing more than a madoff clone. And the NCAA would allow this thug to take down a university. Nothing else. He is not someone in a us court would ever allow in a courtroom to testify.
3. Today's events. Shocking but not shocking.
4. Do you remember Albert means and what not? Secret witness? Logan Young murder??
This could be a huge win for college football. The NCAA is nothing more than a thug run organization who doesn't follow it's own rules. May they rot in hell.
Imo it'll be extremely difficult for the NCAA to level any severe penalties at the Miami program now. To save face they'll flex their muscles on the next program on their list, likely Oregon. Miami skates (although self-imposed sanctions have already occurred) and some program that had dealings with Willie Lyles will get slammed....either Oregon or LSU.
Yes, see VICTORYLAND case in regards to possible info shared with AU NCAA case. Procedure obtainment, I dont know how much could be used in any. Im not smart enough to know legally where this would work or not work, but I know there is some kind of comparison involved.
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Been hearing this for a few years now. Next team will get slammed. & we are all still waiting for it to happen.
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This is not a legal matter. Its an NCAA matter is what i was saying.... Just like the other guy.
Unless Miami took the NCAA to court then the attorneys info would have to be thrown out.
Theres no question that Miami has overtaken the leverage game as of today.
I was always told that the NCAA was not the US Legal system. They didn't have to follow the same rules nor could they force people to testify....
So what, they get sued by Miami in the legal world for information disclosure then turn around and boot Miami out of the NCAA?
The NCAA can find Miami "guilty" of whatever they want AND they can overlook guilt however they want! Alabama fans have observed the NCAA doing BOTH of these things to either Alabama or Rival schools.... I am not sure what the end result will be, but I will be surprised if the NCAA loses. The NCAA has all the leverage.
OR would you say that the University of Miami could ultimately "blackmail" the NCAA and make them look the other way or forget about things that happened??
rollingtide, Mike Slive, BCS and TV stopped the NCAA from getting Auburn and Cam. They went along with it just like Roy Kramer and the NCAA went along with Tennessee and Phillip Fulmer with the Tee Martin deal.
Bamatom is correct, no one requires Miami to join the NCAA, it is by choice.
Hate for Miami? What about your "hate for the NCAA"? Put that aside and look at the facts. I think this will only hurt there case a little against Miami if any. I honestly think its BS. JMO
Great this came out right Before Signing day...............................
Listening to Lebatard and he has Jason Whitlock on down here. Whitlock lays it out eloquently. NCAA had to go to a convicted ponzi schemer to try and bring down a university. Says NCAA won't dare approach Miami with restarting this investigation. This was all uncovered by Donna Shalala's contacts.
Maybe you weren't around for the Albert Means witch hunt. You DAMN right i hate the NCAA.
Go back and do a refresher.
It matters for a few reasons:
1) Courts do have the ability to censure information that is illegally acquired in the legal process.
2) It opens up the potential for sanction suits due to illegally using information
3) NCAA rules and discretion (and Emmert has indicated this is the case) may bar the entry of the evidence in hearings against Miami
Note that I'm not sure this really helps Miami. But, I was responding to people who questioned why there was a confidentiality issue or conflict issue. The key here is that, like you're noting, whether such an issue exists may hurt the NCAA and the attorneys in some way, but not actually help Miami in their sanctions.
This post was edited by Huskypup 18 months ago
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