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Just been watching some replays of our games and man are we going to miss this guy. He is the most dynamic TE we have had since I can remember. He chips so well at the point of attack, plus you have to account for the guy on early downs and redzone situations. He was recruited as a defensive lineman, but man has he become a tremendous TE for us that we will definitely miss.
very, very, very undervalued...at this point he will be the toughest offensive starter to replace next season.
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I totally agree from a blocking aspect. No doubt he has been a Huge Key to our overall success up front during his years. Many times, defenses will put their best pass rusher on the side of the TE, simply because they know he has a better chance of beating him - or at least they know they will be forced to use multiple players against him potentially allowing another player free space to the QB - RB, whatever. With Williams, this was not something teams could take advantage of.
However, we do have a good bit of room to grow with that position from a pass catching capability. Don't get me wrong, MW could make teams pay for not playing him, but it was never a Weapon if you will. It was more of a make the defense pay for not paying attention to the space he can occupy. We may give up some on the blocking side????? We'll see next year and the next couple of years. However, I fully expect with the talent we have at TE, the talent we have coming in....especially OJ of course, we will be much more explosive from a TE position than we have been in years. Compare this somewhat to the production Smelley was able to give us out of this slot. I expect production to be improved even from that time.
I guess what I'm trying to say with WAY too many words (g) ....We may give up some on the blocking side of this position - but we will gain some incredible explosive plays out of the passing attack that overall may certainly make this position going forward even more dangerous to our opponents. This alone, will open up the rushing attack more, maybe balancing out the drop in blocking some, and of course open up more space for the receivers to make plays. Once you have a team that you force your opponent to cover the entire field, everything opens up and everything becomes a weapon.
I look for Vogler to step up his game next year...and let's not forget EE O.J. Howard ( g ). Williams blocking ability was by far his greatest contribution and young guys usually take time to perfect it. That is why OJ being a EE was so crucial this year.
Can you imagine the TE duo if we had MW coming back with a receiving threat like we hope OJ is going to be? Nick Walker and Travis McCall I thought were our two best blocking TE's in the Saban era, but big mike takes the cake. Like manager said he is like another offensive lineman out there.
Vogler has already started stepping up. Him and mike dominated Jarvis jones in the SEC championship game. Another spring and fall camp and hopefully he can take some of the sting away from losing Michael Williams.
I know Ryan Kelly is coming along in practice, but I still can't say it'll be harder to replace anyone than Barrett. Just from a leadership standpoint and his ability to coach young guys in the film room and on the practice field cause he literally know what EVERY player on the LOS should be doing on any given play. I agree though, Michael Williams will be the second toughest to replace.
Malcolm Faciane is a very good up and comer. Reminds me of Williams physically but more athletic. Kurt Freitag is also there but he's being redshirted this year.
been very happy with Vogler late...somebody lit a fire under his arse and I personally believe it was MW himself...I definitely think he has the ability and has proven he's going to work to get better...it is different though when you are the guy over there, often alone. I have a lot of confidence in Vogler.
Now OJ, I'm not going to overly expect much in that department next season, he's not seen anyone in high school remotely close in ability to a rush end in the SEC, and we should not expect him to step in and have a lot of success there until he learns how to better play that position...a pass catching playmaker, now that is a different conversation, and I do have high hopes and expectations relative to that.
Kid was a baller at Pickens County (Reform,AL). I'm not suprised at all that he has made such a huge contribution to our offense the past couple of seasons.
Could not agree more. MW is the best TE at Bama in my 39 years of watching football. IMHO of course
Michael has become essentially a third tackle in the run game. He is very physical and has great technique. Going to be tough to replace him, but Vogler has shown some real promise as of late and seems to have turned the corner. Going to be an interesting position battle to watch in the spring.
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agree...i would think vogler is the heavy favorite. i was critical of him as much as anyone on here for being a big soft baby, but he seems to have really picked it up...we know he is a good receiver
If it turns out the OJ can block then I think we'll be OK next year. Cause he can do everything else. You don't run for 300 yards per game and suck at TE/FB at the next level.
This post was edited by bamamba1989 18 months ago
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