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I think McNeil went in with his shirt over his head because he knew what was happening. That would make him virtually -guaranteed- to be guilty as an accessory, it's just a question of if he were to be found guilty of the main crime and get really harsh time. I think his attorney finally convinced him that his whole "I didn't do no real robbin' so I'm innocent" doesn't really work in court.
What I've come to enjoy is Auburn's inability to beam with pride about their only modern National Championship...if nothing ever happens to them with the NCAA it won't matter, it's become one of the most smeared and tainted seasons in college football history and the stories keep piling up...
You do realize that the witness list is the same from the Goodwin trial, right?
You do realize that a national story exposing Auburn's fundamental, institutional involvement in a massive cover-up-turned-player-relations-nightmare (which also conveniently quoted several Auburn players as corroborating a lack of institutional control and cheating system) didn't come out the week before the Goodwin trial, right? It's also possible Goodwin didn't have a personal axe to grind against the Auburn administration.
There's just a slight chance that McNeil's defense team had designs on using some of that information, and parlaying those interviews into sworn testimony, as a way to not only muddy the waters for the prosecution but also to paint Auburn in the worst possible light during the trial.
But you're probably right. I'm sure it was a total coincidence that story hit the week before his trial. Nothing but saber-rattling.
Of course, it's possible Selena Roberts just happened to misquote 10 different people at different times and all of her story was BS. Of course, it's also possible Gene Chizik has all of teeth and doesn't wear a shacket to bed every night.
As Rush Propst might say...
15 National Championships, 23 SEC Championships, NCAA Record 60 Postseason Bowl Appearances, NCAA Record 35 Bowl Victories
FWIW, I don't think McNeil has what you might call a "defense team."
You could be right. But if what you say is true, then why do you think McNeil accepted the exact same plea deal that he turned down already once. Wouldn't you think if what you say is true, he would have gotten a better deal.
Look, I think Auburn is as dirty as they come, but I don't believe in all these conspiracy theories. To each his own.
Obviously none of us really "know" what happened. For me to imply otherwise is dishonest and based purely on conjecture.
I see a few different scenarios:
1) The extreme: As I pointed out above, Auburn could've sent their PR/legal/financial team (the same one I think we all agree helped them skate on the Cam stuff) into action over the past few days and either struck an agreement with McNeil's family behind closed doors to accept the existing deal and end this now, or struck a deal with someone within the legal system there to ensure McNeil knew he'd not be met favorably if he did go to court. To "encourage" him to take the current deal or face the maximum penalty with certainty.
2) The middle ground (and potentially most likely): The allegations of the attempted cover-up and procedural issues are true, McNeil is still guilty, but he and his family wanted to burn Auburn and thought they could use the trump card of Roberts' story to scare Auburn into complying or encouraging their contacts in the local legal system to sweeten his deal (or to just muddy the water so much that he got a mistrial or a better plea bargain.) Auburn and the DA didn't blink, and McNeil's advisors convinced him to just take the deal and move on because now he has the entire town pissed at him - including the jury pool. Certainly plausible.
3) The least likely scenario: The story that came out last week was a total coincidence, or Roberts was just using the story to get page clicks and McNeil really had no intent to maintain his innocence. (I seriously doubt this - as he'd have accepted the deal a while back after he saw what happened to Goodwin.)
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I do have to wonder if Roberts will follow through and publish her second article detailing the booster culture at Auburn. Should be VERY interesting.
If you read the entire article that came out today, the last line says that Auburn has admitted to changing the grade. Their excuse is that medically excused absences caused him to fail the class.
I've missed school because of being sick before and didn't get my grade changed. I had to make up the work that I missed. Also, missing class doesn't just give you a passing grade because your absence was excused. You still have to earn the grade that you make.
The thought didn't pop into my head until I was halfway through this thread, but by the end of it I am 100% certain your first name is Harvey.
This post was edited by tyde13 12 months ago
Sometimes karma is much more harmful than anything the NCAA can do to a program, just ask tennessee. The barn has burned and the viles have vanished. Personally I'm concentrating on the Aggies, the bengals, and whoever makes it to Atlanta out of the east.
Seems to me they really just wanted to hit the gunman hard. Which they did with Goodwin. The rest of these guys will plead down with 3-5 yrs max in prison! Make no mistake why would his story seemed to be very true especially considering the program did run away from them like they had the plague. It was wildly known that team was full of spice and there was little to no discipline in the program over chizik's entire tenure! There is just way too much smoke with what was reported by their own alum than to look at the road kicking rocks saying nothing here! Guys just go back and look up the events as they happened
This is about as surprising as Alabama winning a championship. They can't play a lick down there but they're champions at cheating. Move on, we will kick their smelly ass anyway, always have.
As part of the legal system, I often find it funny how those outside of that realm view things like this. He pleaded guilty the morning of trial, huh?? Must be a conspiracy!!
Newsflash--99% of defendants plead not guilty at arraignment; Over 85% plead not guilty on their first scheduling docket. However, the vast majority plead guilty the week of trial. Why? It's simple: before, they didn't HAVE to plead guilty to anything. This guy was obviously cooked; considering Goodwin got 15 years, if the DA was offering 15 serve 3, he'd be nuts not to jump on it considering what we think the facts are.
This isn't some AU conspiracy. Take your tinfoil hats off.
Spot on. Why plead guilty and go to prison any sooner than you have to? McNeil played the game till time was up so he could smell fresh air for as long as possible. No conspiracies just common sense. Most sane people would do as he did and delay going to prison for as long as possible. He and his attorney knew that he was guilty under Alabama law.
We just got HBO 4'd again! *u players admit to media to cheating. News piece his open media. Inside of 24 hours from news release all players claim no rules were broken. *u issues statement. Ncaa clears *u. *u fans claim that everyone is out to get them because THIER OWN players claim that they CHEAT. PLEASE, what an i missing here?
Why is everyone wanting Auburn sanctions so bad? Have you folks seen what Auburn has done to themselves? They do a fine job of Auburning themselves with no help at all.
I am out of votes but this is the post I most agree in this tread with well said Sir +1 to you. I have said since Sell out Sloan gave them barnturds their home game to finance their very exsistence we should have dropped them, then and they would be D2 or less right now. BAMA DON'T NEED THEM. All they think about is get BAMA. All you people saying there is no conspiracy have not been paying attention. Not only do they cheat to try and win but they have established that they cheat to try and bring BAMA down... so I say BURN barn BURN
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