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First off, hello to everyone. The names Tyler, I'm 23 and stationed in Okinawa, Japan with the Air Force. Big ups to BOL. I only get about half the games a year and it helped me get through my last deployment and was just kind of my little piece of home. I wasn't around for the Bear Bryant years but always enjoyed my old man telling me about those days. So, for people who were around then when do you think CNS will seriously be considered to be on par with the greatest coach ever? I myself think with the job CNS does developing not just NFL talent, but in developing young men of incredible caliber in general he is by far on pace to be considered one of the greatest. One thing CNS hasn't produced at Alabama yet is a Kenny Stabler or Joe Namath caliber QB. I know The Bear pretty much had his pick of the litter of blue chip players and its getting that way for CNS. So, what does it seriously take? How many more 1st rounders? How many more championships and do you think he will eventually be considered the best ever?
First off, thank you for your service to this country. It is tough to say what it will take for CNS to be on the Mount Rushmore of coaches (some believe that he already has). Regardless, if he keeps up on this pace, there will be little doubt as to his belonging amongst the greatest coaches of all time.
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We are very fortunate to have had both coaches at the University. I really hope we don't engage in debate as to who is better - just be thankful for both!
Greatest coach ever? No. Greatest coach of his era...arguably yes. NO ONE ON THIS PLANET will ever replace Bear...NO ONE.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.
God, give me patience today. If given strength I may beat someone to death.
In the foreseeable future, I don't think anyone can dominate the SEC the way Bryant did. The league has changed too much, and there are too many potential powerhouses to allow for it. If we're the 2nd best team in the country, it won't be uncommon that the best team is also in our conference. So It's probably not fair to judge a Saban vs .Bryant comparison by their batting average at winning conference championships.
I'd say the run we've had during the past 4 years (the championships, the won-lost record, the recruiting success, the draftees produced, the total domination of TN, and the two pistol whippings of Auburn) is at least as impressive as any particular 4-year span of Bryant's career. Moreover, there doesn't seem to be a coach or a school that really has Saban's number. He's clearly the best in CFB right now, and the step down to whoever is #2 is pretty big.
But the magnitude of Bryant's achievement is still greater because of his longevity. He won at an exceedingly high level, including 6 championships, over a 25-year tenure. That will be hard for Saban to match because he won't coach here 25 years. Also, Bryant had the advantage of coming first. He gets a lot of credit for raising our program to its current status, which Saban will never get because succeeded Bryant. A lot of Bama fans will always hold Bryant in higher regard for that reason.
What would it take for me to say that they are equal?
Saban gives us at least 10 years
He wins at least 4 national titles
He has no more than 1 or 2 mediocre seasons in that 10 - 15 year span
He bats 0.750 or better against Auburn and Tennessee collectively
He never gets consistently owned by the same school or coach
If he does that, I'll put them in the same category.
Welcome, and thank you for the sacrifices you've made for our great country. I'm not big on this particular subject, but think Saban will join Bryant as one of the GOAT when he hangs it up.
I know the one thing I heard a 1,000 times from my old man growing up is that Bear's win record was set in an incredibly short amount of time compared to anyone else. I know I was graduating high school when JoPa and Bowdon surpassed his mark which granted Bear died years before I was born means it took them around 20 years to surpass his win record alone. I'm not trying to start a debate. Just curious as to what people think it would take for CNS to get on that level. I just wanted to grab attention with the headline.
Welcome to the addiction, and thanks so much for your service to our great country!
"Character" is doing the right thing when nobody is looking.
Thank you for your service and how is the water.Spent a little time there TDY some 35 years ago loved the water.We are so lucky to have two of the greatest coaches of all time enjoying the ride...RTR
In my opinion the two are very similar. They seem to want to work harder than anyone else. Coach Bryant wasn't restricted by guidelines as much as Coach Saban, however Coach Bryant was restricted by traditions and segregation in the 1960's.
Also the SEC is different now than in Coach Bryant's era. More balanced and competitive.
I do remember that many times in the 1970's, especially early 70's, Bama came out on the short end of the stick in big bowl games. 1971 Nebraska Orange Bowl, 1972 Texas Cotton Bowl, 1973 Sugar and 1974 Orange both to N.D. Both coaches are great and some of the greatest of all times. I would put Saban in Bryant's category now and will definitely say that both were the greatest coaches in their respective eras.
This post was edited by bleedsrandw 2 years ago
Bryant's accomplishments won't be rivaled in my lifetime but to commit blasphemy, in a championship game between the two, I'd take Saban. I can't remember a coach who mentally and physically prepares a team Better to kick the opponents ass. I also think it's much harder to win a NC these days as well.
This post was edited by Bamaducks 2 years ago
I was knowledgeable enough about the game to appreciate coach Bryant's greatness from about 1970 on and if I had to choose between the two to build a program I would choose CNS . Enjoy this young folks - it's a very special time .
I think 4 championships (1 with a program he built from scratch) and he's on Bears level...I know folks may not like this but this era is harder...with 85 scholarships it is tougher to build a dynasty...if he gets 5 toal NC's there's no question if you ask me
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