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He may finally admit to using PED's. Please, please don't get me wrong, everything this man has done for Cancer and Cancer research alone earns him a place in some kind of honor. But, I find it amazing the levels he went to trying to make everyone believe he did not dope....levels no other athlete came close to approaching. And now, well I guess it was all a complete sham the entire time.
It really is sad what PED's have done to a complete generation of what we thought were super athletes. Take this link for what its worth....
Lance Armstrong is considering publicly admitting he used performance-enhancing drugs and blood transfusions during his cycling career, according to a New York Times report.
This post was edited by BB2One 18 months ago
I must be in the minority here, but I couldn't possibly care less about PED use in sports. I loved baseball in the late 90's and early 2000's much more than I do now, and absolutely realize that's because of PED use making the game more entertaining in my eyes.
I think no less of Armstrong for using, and always assumed he did even before the suspicions arose publicly. I watch football under the same assumption by the way.
I don't care he used them...they all do
I care to the point if its unhealthy long term. We can't reward our athletes for doing a bad drug that will permanently damage them or cause problems later. That's a recipe for disaster.
When you venture into the HGH debate though, I fully believe the stuff a lot of these guys are taking will be ENCOURAGED 30 yrs from now........not just for athletes, but the general public as well.
He was the best PED user in a sport full of them. He probably would have been the best if nobody used them. All they did was level the playing field. Couldn't care less. He's not the icon he used to be, anyway. I think the "great American athlete on an international stage" cache he once held was stolen by Michael Phelps in 08. Stripping his rings is just as pointless and fraudulent as what has happened to Barry Bonds et al.
Ditto. A large percentage of the athletes are using PEDs as it is. They're just handicapping the clean ones. Make it an even playing field. Let everyone use them. Sports are voluntary in this country. No one is forcing you to risk your health.
This is gonna sound crazy, but I miss watching guys like Brady Anderson hit 50 homers out of nowhere. He had a 14 year career, 210 homers, but 50 came in 1996 as a result of juice. Sosa Vs McGuire was one of my favorite baseball memories and it came from PED's. Baseball was never more entertaining than it was then.
God, give me patience today. If given strength I may beat someone to death.
It's not crazy, it's truth. According to the numbers, most of America agrees with you, they just won't admit it.
He's a fraud just like Bonds and all the others. If you can't see the problem with it than we just see it two different ways and there is no point in arguing. What happens after HGH? There will always be something that gives one man an unfair advantage that's unhealthy.
So you're in favor of people cheating and using illegal substances as long as you're entertained? Gotcha!
That's why I enjoyed Charlie Sheen on Two and a Half Men.
Steroids are such Bs. I could take all the steroids I want and still not be able to hit a 98 mph fastball or complete a single stage of the Tour De France. I'd guess about 10% of steroid users are actually considered "elite" players. There are guys that have used roids and never made it out of Single A minor league ball. Most just use steroids to heal from an injury faster than a normal person, not to become some super-human athletic freak. So Lance, Bonds, Sosa, A-Rod, Manny, and Clemons are all good in my opinion.
He played the public perfectly - deny deny deny when he's relevant in the public and at the peak of his popularity, and then "give up the fight" years after the fact when he has (for the most part) faded away from relevancy to the point where people say stuff like "I don't care if he used them, they al did." The bottom line is this - the dude is a sham and a liar, you can't avoid that.
And to those who say you don't care about PED use in sports - it's obvious you've never had to compete on a decidedly unleveled playing field against those who use PEDs. You'd change your tune if so.
The point is that you have the world's most elite athletes who then use steroids on top of being one of the very small % of humans who can hit a 98 MPH fastball, resulting in grossly inflated numbers. Barry Bonds hitting a HR while breaking a bat en route to 73 homers comes to mind - he could hit just about any pitch, but he did so with much more power and velocity than his natural God-given talents and work-ethic would have otherwise allowed.
BINGO, for me Walsh you just nailed it. How much bigger numbers would my favorite player of all time (Greg Maddux) put up if he would have played in the old days of baseball. No PED's and a more favorable mound height. I believe PED's are a slap in the face to any athlete that has worked there butt off to do it the right way. I admire guys like Fred McGriff, The Hawk Andre Dawson, Ozzie Smith, Lou Gehrig, Larry Bird, Jerry Rice, guys that busted there butts to achieve not the Brett Boone's a 15 to 20 home run guy changing to a 30 home 300 avg guy in one off season.
The disgusting thing about Armstrong is the way he lied about it and bullied everyone who tried to tell the truth!
I'm on the opposite side. PED users are frauds, particularly since they deprive clean athletes from making the big money they may be entitiled to...and it's perpetual. The more money they make, the more money they can use to obtain the more expensive drugs or even develop new drugs. So the richest eliet PED users have an added advantage. With that said, Lance's last tour showed how human he is when he is off PEDs. He went from finishing 3rd in 2010 to no where near the top ten in 2011, when they were closely monitoring the athletes (assumption).
On another note, while I commend Armstrong for his efforts on his foundation, I was somewhat surprised to read that his foundation contributes less than 4% of donations to cancer "awareness" and nothing to cancer "research." Everything else goes to salaries....but 4% is better than nothing at all.
Jawa, I do agree with you that I watch football under the assumption that players are taking PEDs and I still want my team to dominate the other...so I guess, in some sense, that I am an enabler since I buy tickets to sporting events.
They may not admit it but I will. I think they should take what they want, it's their body and sports will never be more entertaining than when everyone was using. Ethical? I can't answer that. Entertaining? Absolutely. Jmvho.
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood, nobody!"
This... When you are in a sport dominated by PEDs using them is just leveling the playing field.... Guarantee you if no one in the sport used them Lance would still have multiple tour titles. The guys work ethic and commitment to training was unrivaled in the sport. Teammates have said a lot of bad things about him over the years but none have ever questioned his dedication.
Cycling has had a culture of doping for decades. It is a very dirty sport. Always has been.
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