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There seems to be a popular thought that; "Ole Miss must be cheating, to be recruiting as well as CNS!" and "Were going to sweep 2014 and get any prospect we want!". Both of these Might have some basis in fact, but there is no evidence yet for either claim. Prospects don't always go to the best team. If so, we would get everyone we offered. We as fans always downplay important factors like playing time, scheme, location, momma, recruiters and their techniques, friendships, etc. Theses things can be deciding factors to an 18 year old.
Ole miss has so many 5 stars in courtship because of a strong group in Mississippi, Nkim.'s brother, loads of playing time to be had, and an exciting group of young players already there. We know they're not better than us. The prospects know that. Even Ole Miss knows that. Is it unusual? Of course it is, So was Joe Mcknight giving Ole Miss a hard look because he knew he could be a legend there. Maybe some prospects recognize that Ole Miss isn't exactly Harvard, They're in the SEC, and it might be a good fit for them. They're not going to sign everyone on campus, but they'll finish with an historic class for them. But it's Ole Miss, they might sneak out an upset in the the next few years but they are still a long way from the top. Quit Crying! We're Alabama and we we should welcome any challenge and the possibility of a stronger SEC West.
Next year looks like a fantastic, '08 reminiscent class. But we wont have ten 5 stars. Am I the only one who heard CNS say they pass on certain guys, even though everyone else wants them, because they don't fit the criteria? We always sign 3 and even 2 star guys because they do. (Robert Lester, Darren Lake etc etc etc). Also some of those top guys will choose UCLA, Tenn, or A&M because they like they're jersey better. I would have loved to have J Clowney, But he would not be as big of a star in T-town because he probably wouldn't have gotten the same playing time, and 4-3 end looks like his more natural position.
Bama is still dominating College Football, this is what it looks like. So, don't cry foul when you don't get everyone on YOUR wish list. They don't make rankings for scouting, player development, or a staff's ability to motivate, just crystal balls.
Agree on pretty much everything except for the Clowney thing. I think he would have been a bigger deal in Tuscaloosa because teams couldn't afford to double team him like they do in South Carolina. Also, we would have probably played a variation of the 4-3 80% of the time to keep his hand in the ground. Anyway, I kind of agree that we should have that kind of attitude welcoming the challenge, but I seriously don't understand the Treadwell thing. I understand how five star from Illinois ends up at a place like Alabama, Florida, or even Georgia, but I don't understand Ole Miss...I apologize for my skepticism.
Treadwell has a former teammate at Ole Miss in Anthony Standifer for one thing. That is why he had some interest from the beginning. He also made it clear at the beginning of his recruitment that he was going to go play for an offense that spread things out. That was clear by his original favorites, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. Picking them as his favorites showed that he was very interested in getting away from home as well, IMO. Then through having a friend on the team, along with the style of play that he wants and having plenty of playing time from the start, he chose Ole Miss.
I have no clue if this it true, but I would imagine that there is a reason why he wants to get away from home. He may have some bad influences there and getting to a place like Oxford that has a completely different environment could be a great fit for him right now in life.
"Don't confuse association, with something we both really like." ---JB
Your right, were not really a 3-4 team anymore. And he would see more 1 on 1 blocks at Bama. But I doubt he would have played as much his freshman year. Saban seems to value discipline over pure play making ability, look at LaMichael Fanning for example. Either way, Clowney would probably be a lock top 5 draft choice.
I'm somewhat skeptical about Ole Miss too, they have always come across shady to me in the past. But there is no thick black smoke right now. I'm still holding onto the idea that its just circumstance, and next years class will proably be back closer to average for them.
-1 because I don't know why this needed its own thread?? You could've chosen 1 of the other 5 threads on the topic.
Clowney would be unstoppable in Tuscaloosa. I can't imagine our defense with an elite pass rusher, let alone one of the best in college football.
I agree with some points, but if you think that Clowney wouldn't have played that much his freshman year at Bama you are crazy. That guy would have been a top 10 pick coming out of high school.
My sanity isn't up for debate. I am crazy. Clowney maybe was a bad example. But I stand by the rest.
The price of victory is high, but so are the rewards.
There were 10 OM is cheating threads, there are 20 pointless threads on the first 2 pages alone, like one more is going to screw up BOL! There will be 10 more redundant threads started tonight, and 20 more pointless threads, are you gonna go run -1 those too?
If there are 5 threads on a topic and someone wants to start there own instead of participating in the ongoing ones, then yes, I'd DV those too. It's like reading through all of the others and saying, "Self, my opinion really deserves its own attention."
Also, people complain about a DV without explanation all the time. In the interest of hopefully limiting the number of duplicate threads, I state my reasoning.
This post was edited by VegasTide 15 months ago
Clowney would have played at least 3/4 of the defensive snaps his freshman year. Him and Upshaw together coming off of the edge would have been nasty. Borderline illegal
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