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First pic is when he has control. Second pic proves he had control as he's pulling it in. His left foot is down in both pics
sick touchdown catch
Maturity is a bitter disappointment for which no remedy exists, unless laughter can be said to remedy anything. -- Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
Yes it was, sick total game from Cooooooooooooooooooooper. We need to do that after every catch, Coooooooooooper
curtis brown says hello!....still makes me wanna puke
Fwiw, heres a pic of the overturned lester fumble. While lester no longer has control in this pic, he's clearly touching the ball and out of bounds. Does a man out of bounds touching the ball not make it out of bounds?
Yeah, whether he has control or not, if he is OOB and touching the ball then the ball is OOB as well.
The guy stripping th ball from Lester was laying out of bounds and grabbing at him. No one ever said a word about how a player out of bounds can reach back inbounds and strip a player. Is that legal or was it just missed on that call?
This.. Man, instant replay would've changed the outcome of that heart-breaker.
You could see this from the screens in the stadium. I don't know what the crap the replay booth was seeing. It goes back to what I said a week or so ago, the replay booth officials do not abide by their own rules when it comes to overturning calls. It's BS basically
question for the peeps in this thread. I'm having an argument about the PI call on Nico Johnson and the Jesse Williams 4th down stop. From my eyes, that was good coverage by Nico as the player and the Ole Miss coaches made the refs throw the flag. Also, the second scoring drive for Ole Miss was a poor spot by the refs on that 4th down conversion. Jesse stopped him a yard short.
I think the issue was the way the call was ruled on the field. The referee said the Ole Miss player that recovered the fumble was out of bounds when he got control of it. The Ole Miss player was inbounds when he recovered it as the replay shows. I don't know if the replay officials could rule whether Lester was out of bounds before the ball came loose or not b/c of the on the field ruling. I'm not an official, but maybe someone who is can elaborate.
I think you are right on both. However, we benefitted on a spot on one of our scoring drives as well. Things have a way of evening out sometimes.
The PI call was a bad call. The first down could have gone either way, but it wasnt a bad call:
First pic shows where he was down, use the bold yard line as a reference. Second pic shows an accurate spot and first down.
I said the same thing at the game. I watched it several times at home, and it actually looks like Lester leaves the ground while fumbling, and the OM player leaves the ground while ripping, so they actually weren't touching OB on the neutral ball. That would mean refs were right, I guess.
Really strange play....
Yeah but sometimes it stings... I dont think RLester's call (or Dee Milliner's INT against Arky) should've been overturned.
I remember 3 calls getting overturned in the booth in our heartbreaking 2007 loss in BDS against LSU (esp the Matt Caddell catch)... You dont see that very much, if ever, unless NFL replacement refs are busy making a mockery out of officiating. Rough game last night by Penn Wager's crew, IMO.
I still have the shirt.
I have a huge still shot framed photo!...
Great shots on the Cooper TD, but the Lester fumble photo is about as clear as mud. You are correct though. He was out of bounds before he lost the ball. No way that should have been reversed.
I thought it was a pretty accurate spot by the officials, I mean if the ref literally marked the ball a inch or 2 back it's a different outcome. Hard to complain about that call/spot.
I thought Nico played the pass play great, def wasn't PI. If Matt Millen says it was good D then by all means no flag should've been thrown. (g) Did Millen mention Cooper was gonna be a great WR here? Dang he said that a ton, but then didn't speak highly of AJ who is of course the guy throwing him the ball there Matt..
If he lost control while still inbounds, then it doesn't matter if he touched it while it was out of bounds, and that's what your photo doesn't show. And to be honest, I can't see Lester's left foot in the photo because of Scott's right leg. I can't tell if it's inbounds or not.
We all know that the replay officials have access to all the video angles we see. But here's the thing that no one knows: we don't know if there are other angles they see that the TV producers aren't showing us. The TV producer in the truck that is deciding what shots to show us on TV may not have anything to do with whoever is giving the replay official his shots.
This post was edited by airharper 22 months ago
Both lester and the guy stripping the ball are totally out of bounds. Though both of them are touching the ball, neither has control. You are saying that means that the ball is still live?
i think it was a touchdown but you can't tell at all from those first two shots. it gets a little clearer based on the 2nd set of pictures, but you have to see video in order to determine if he's got it or not.
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