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now according to a new NCAA rule...
How do you decide that?
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This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by UAbasspro 17 months ago
one step closer to 2-hand touch.
this isn't football....
I remember that call on Ha-Ha during the A&M game and thought it was the most BS call. Mistakes happen during this game and think some ref is going to absolutely change the complexity of the game, so he looks likes he's enforcing the new rules.
let's just put flags around there waist and play flag football
Probably will never be called except during:
1. LSU games, and Les will not understand if this stops the clock or not.
2. 1st quarter national championship game against Bama. Despite Bama beating Ohio State 49-7, Urban Meyer uses it as an excuse for losing and changing the momentum of the game.
3. Miami and USC games because I think they are going to have to use walk-ons who will not know better.
Yeah, this is going to work well.
Can you imagine Saban's reaction after Landon Collins (or Vinnie, or Ha Ha, etc.) get ejected for a legal hit that the ref sees differently?!?!
Understand the intent, but not sure it's best to leave that decision up to referees in the heat of the moment.
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Will it be reviewable?
It's amazing to me that for the last 10 years, nearly every rule change has been effected to preclude putting the referees in a position to make a judgement call.
Now this. I understand safety, but this is really going to be bad for the game.
Would have to at least be reviewed to get close to right imo. & then it's still a judgment call.
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Like the facemask rule.
To me that was a horrible change, I mean sometimes the hand just gets caught up in there and other times the defender grabs it and pulls the runner down.
Agree. It should be like the new Flagrant I/Flagrant II rules in men's basketball. In order to enforce it, you have to review and confirm it on tape before the tech or ejection. Shouldn't be able to just categorically throw someone out for hitting someone too hard in the head.
(BTW - the new flagrant rules are almost universally hated in basketball, as well. You'd think they'd learn at some point.)
has to be...but they will still pussify everything
Nobody knows intent except the deliverer. This is a horrible path to travel.
Things are going down a very slippery slope. This is one of the biggest steps towards two hand touch that we've seen since all these "safety" rules have started being implemented. I'm genuinely concerned they are trying to turn football into soccer and it's sickening to me where things are headed.
Two hand touch is never gonna happen imo. It's still gonna be tackle football.
Here is my biggest problem with this rule other than it is a pussy rule to begin with.
What the heck are you supposed to do when you are going to hit a guy in the chest and he lowers his head?? The natural intent for a WR mostly when he goes across the middle it to cringe and lower his head when he is about to get drilled. What about a RB who lowers his head when is trying to run over someone? There is no way not to hit the guy in the head when he does that.
When playing at full speed, it doesn't matter what your intentions are, you're going to make some nasty hits, and you're going to receive some nasty hits. It's just part of the game, and the risk every player assumes when they take the field.
Rules like this are ridiculous.
I would say at least 85% of these so called "intentional blows to the head" are due to this. This game is changing for the worse. As a former player, it is really disappointing. Even the players acknowledge that this is going way to far and most are against these new ridiculous rules. I feel like the idiots sitting up there in their little conference room coming up these rules somehow forget that we are talking about some of the world's best athletes moving at full speed, which for most of these guys is very fast, and reacting and playing 95% of the time solely on instinct. When you're in the game going full speed during a play, you aren't thinking about intentionally hitting the receiver in the head, frankly you never even have the chance to make that decision. All you do is react and act totally on instinct. It's ridiculous to think that this will help the game. If they really choose to enforce this ridiculous rule, you will have half of the defense sitting in the locker room in the 2nd half, and not because they consciously made the decision to hit the dude above the shoulders, IT JUST HAPPENS!
It's not like these guys don't know what they're getting into when they strap on the pads. They've been playing the sport their whole lives!
These new rules have frustrated me so much the last few years. As mentioned, this will ultimately ruin the sport so many of us love and enjoy watching. Get ready to see a bunch of red and yellow flags hanging around these players' waists. Oh my goodness that's so much fun to watch!
At least half of the "targeting" calls were because an offensive player lowered his body thus his head. It's a natural instinct to make yourself smaller (thus lower) when you are about to be hit. They ought to work on refining that judgement first.
First of all, it's only a proposal.
Second, there were others.
From the NCAA:
The NCAA Football Rules Committee took steps to further protect student-athletes by proposing a rule to eject players who target and contact defenseless players above the shoulders.
The committee, which met Monday-Wednesday, unanimously voted to increase the on-field penalty for targeting. The penalty, if approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel, will be a 15-yard penalty and automatic ejection of the player. The Panel meets on March 6 to review the proposals and membership comment.
“Student-athlete safety will always be one of our primary concerns,” said Troy Calhoun, chair of the committee and head coach at the United States Air Force Academy. “We all have a role to embrace when making a positive impact on our game. Taking measures to remove targeting, or above the shoulder hits on defenseless players, will improve our great sport.”
The action by the committee continues a progression to address dangerous contact through its rules. Targeting, which was initially approved by the committee as a separate foul in 2008, has been generally successful in terms of officiating application, which made the committee feel comfortable in adding to the penalty.
“The general consensus is that the officials on the field make this call properly the vast majority of the time and know what the committee is looking for with this foul,” said Rogers Redding, secretary-editor of the rules committee and national coordinator of officials for College Football Officiating, LLC. “This move is being made to directly change player behavior and impact player safety.”
The proposed rule will mirror the penalty for fighting. If the foul occurs in the first half of a game, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game. If the foul occurs in the second half or overtime of a game, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game and the first half of the next contest.
The committee has also decided, in an effort to address concerns when one of these plays is erroneously called, to make the ejection portion of the penalty reviewable through video replay. The replay official must have conclusive evidence that a player should not be ejected to overturn the call on the field. Additionally, a post-game conference review remains part of the rule and conferences always have the ability to add to a sanction.
Another area the committee has discussed in recent years deals with blocking below the waist. The past two years, the committee has adjusted rules governing these blocks in an attempt to remove some potentially dangerous plays from the game. The result has been a confusing and uneven rule that has not had the intended impact.
The proposed rule will focus on the block itself and allow these blocks in typical line play.
“What we’re trying to do is write the rule to protect the player that will need to take on this block,” said Calhoun. “So, the blocks from the front of this type in your typical line play are legal and anything that is from the side or back are not.”
Previously, the position of the player at the snap changed whether or not the player could block below the waist legally.
“This rule was hard to teach to officials, hard to teach to coaches and really difficult to understand overall,” said Redding. “That obviously wasn’t the intent and we believe our new proposal will clear up a lot of confusion and keep the positive safety elements of the rule in place.”
The committee also made several other proposals to improve the game. The committee proposed:
To add a 10-second runoff with less than a minute remaining in either half when the sole reason for the clock to stop is an injury.
To establish three seconds as the minimum amount of time required to be on the game clock in order to spike the ball to stop the clock. If one or two seconds remain on the clock, there is only time for the offense to run one more play.
To require a player that changes numbers during the game to report this to the referee, who will announce this.
To only allow one player number to be worn by the same team and participate at the same position (e.g., two quarterbacks on the same team are not allowed to have the same number).
To require teams to have either their jersey or pants contrast in color to the playing field.
To allow the use of electronic communication by the on-field officiating crew after successful experimentation by the Southeastern Conference. This is not a required piece of equipment but will allow officiating crews to use this tool.
To allow the Big 12 Conference to experiment with using an eighth official on the field in conference games. This official would be placed in the backfield opposite the referee.
To allow instant replay to adjust the clock at the end of each quarter. Previously this provision was only in place for the end of each half.
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So Tulane and North Texas can no longer wear all green uniforms. I guess Eastern Washington will also have the Boise problem.
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