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These are some of the same reason's Cam put up huge numbers. The big difference between the two. Cam can actually be a drop back passer in the NFL. & his arm is strong & accurate. Tebows accuracy so far in the NFL is way below average.
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I think many have covered the biggest reason he hasn't had the same success. The NFL is asking him to run their offense. That offense doesn't work for him. It would be like telling Lebron James to quick driving the ball to the basket and only shoot jumpers. That is not his strengths. He had one of the best offensive minds in college football when he played for Urban and he has went to NFL clubs that do not know a thing about the spread. Teams didn't ask Jerome Bettis to run sweeps or Marshall Faulk to pound the rock up the gut. If Tebow is going to be your qb then you have to play to his strengths.
I believe that is the biggest reason but it is also important to note that like some other high profile guys like Leinart the team Tebow played for at UF was more talented than any he faced. That is not the only reason he was successful, but it definitely didn't hurt. Harvin, Hernandez, Murphy, etc are very good players in the NFL and made it a little easier to succeed. It is not a fluke that Tebows numbers dropped his last year. The Broncos and Jets have arguably the worst talent in the NFL. So you take a guy that had as much talent around him in college as any and put him in the NFL surrounded by lower level talent, combined with a whole new O that doesn't play to his strengths and you get a qb that looks like Tebow in the NFL.
Best answer right here. Instead of developing him as a QB, CUM changed his offense into something that would showcase Tebow. He'll never be an every down NFL QB, but he could be successful as a wildcat QB or perhaps in another position.
I hope you are right but he lost 3 of his last 4 games once teams got used to that O and his numbers got worse and worse.
I root for Tebow more than anyone. I rarely watch the NFL but don't miss a second when he is in the game. Unless teams play to his strengths, he will continue to be 4 of 10 for about 40 yards. No one is willing any team to wins consistently with those numbers.
Urban ran the same O at Utah and BG. Tebow just happened to be the perfect player for that O. Urban didn't change his O. Urbans job was to win college games which he has done as well as anyone. If Tebow wanted to be developed as a qb then he should have went to a pro style system, not to a coach that has ran the spread his whole career.
So richardson only has one national championship? He made some plays in 09 but it was Ingram who carried the team. He was only a back up.
I'm with you. After the top level guys I think teams have to look at tebow as a option. Look at guys with good throwing motion and accuracy like cassel, kolb, hasselback, etc... Average qb with less success in the win colomn.
You can't really be equating NFL level talent with SEC talent....are you?? This just in..the worst NFL team would kick any college teams butt and it wouldnt be close...
Didn't say that at all. But the guy said he played "inferior" talent while in college. A lot of NFL players come from the SEC. & yes I know any NFL team would kill any college team. But to say Tebow didn't face some of the best "college" players is very wrong. He didn't spend 4yrs. at a Big 10 school. He played 4yrs. in the mecca of college football.
The QB position is one of those weird "credit" spots, kind of like a pitcher in baseball getting credit for wins/losses even though they dont actually score the runs.
Tebow was an amazing college player and DID impact his team as a freshman... however he DIDNT start a single game and was typically used in situational formations or downs.. kinda like how we used Ingram when GMac was struggling in 2009; I'm not asking him to give his ring back, but he didnt win 2NC's as a starter either.
TR does get to count his 2 rings and he made some big plays late in the year (2009) - but I bet he would tell you last years team was HIS team.. and 2009 was MI's team..
But lets not get too distracted from the point of the thread - Tebow was a dual-threat running QB in college - he wasnt forced to learn the pro system. Now he is having to play the game a different way, with many of his weapons taken away. Running QB's dont work in the NFL... its been proven over and over again. If he can stay in the league for a couple more years and get some good coaching he might end up starting somewhere.. but Meyer's system screwed him for the NFL...
Yes. He does have a winning record, but also look at all the teams he beat last year. The Chicago bears lead by caleb hannIe? Christian Ponder and the Vikings? He had a fairly workable schedule.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm a Tebow fan, but I'm not going to blindly defend his ability to play qb in the nfl because I think that he is an outstanding human being.
I'm going to guess that John Elway knows more about quarterbacking than me and he couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Great person, who I admire, but a terrible nfl qb.
Amen. There's a thread on this board where many believe that Alabama can beat the Jets. I don't understand the logic behind their thinking.
Defense, running game, and a very good offensive line had more to do with their wins than Tebow.
Crazy how that defense all of a sudden got better with him a qb. Dude is Also a motivator and a leader. That entire team rallied around him.
Yeah this right on the money. Thats why NFL teams took a whole year to deal with the dang wildcat. I laugh when they say "so in so will have to learn the system at fill in the blank. What system? They all run the exact same offense.
On Tebow, he was just perhaps the best college QB ever. once in a lifetime player in college. IMO he is flawed as a pocket passer but i would not judge him off of the NYJ. They are horrible on the OL and have very avg receivers and RB.
Tebow wasn't even the best QB on his team "once in a lifetime player in college" lol. Timmy was a good college player but a kid by the name of Cam Newton is 3x the player Tebow was. He put up better numbers with way less talent at *U. I'm still not sure how are why Urban let him leave Florida. I often said while Tebow was at Florida for every 15-20 yard run he had someone like Cam or Pat White would have turned it into 50-60 yds. And his running TD total was because Urban refused to give the ball to anyone inside the 5 but Timmy.
The NFL had to take a whole year to learn the wildcat????? it surely was not because of Timmy. I seem to remember Ronnie Brown running it very successfully with the Doplhins. The lovefest for Tebow is ridiculous... He was drafted way to early and is just what I and many thought he would be in the NFL average at best. Great kid average football player.
Well I was not referring to Tebow w/ the wildcat it was the dolphins and brown but thanks for making my point for me. You can lol all you want about my statement about Tebow but the facts back it up. The guy was a record breaking college QB. Was he a Doug Flutie passing record guy? Absolutely not but if he'd gone to Bama you'd be singing his praises. I'm probably a lot older than you and there has not been a player like TT in cfb since I've been watching.
The lovefest for Tebow is for several reasons; first and foremost he is a good role model in world of horrible ones and secondly for the hatefest he receives from media and fans like you. Lastly, he will never receieve a real shot play QB in the NFL because people are invested in his failure.
Now Pat white is in the discussion? Tebow, the average player who was a heisman finalist 3 years in a row.
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