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Recruiting Effectiveness

  • I've always thought, even going back to his LSU days, that CNS is the best in the business as a developer of players once they are on campus. So I was thinking about the numbr of players that really contribute in a meaningful way each year vs. the number of players on the roster, and how that relates to player development, etc. I went back to our committment classes from '06 to '09 to see how many of the guys we landed on signing day really contributed. I realize some of these are Shula commits and some are Saban commits, but all spent meaningfull time under CNS' player develoment scheme.

    The interesting conclusion is that just over half of those commits really contributed in an important meaningful way. Even in the outstanding class of '08, by my measure, 16 or 17 of the 31 names really have made a contribution ( I include on that list role players like UBillingsley, RGreen and KMurphy despite two of them not finishing their careers but I exclude guys like WNeighbors who played on special teams, but not is a way that couldn't be replicated by another e.g. he wasn't a Vinnie Sunseri).

    The other interesting conclusion is that there seem to always be a couple of players who don't contribute meaningfully until late in their careers, but end up important anyway. JHarris, CWilliams, Gentry, Watkins, Dial are examples.

    So I'm curious about two things. First, who will be those late bloomers in '012 and '013 that surprise and delight us? Billingsley? Bonds? Atchison? Patrick?

    Second, why would anyone (yes, I'm looking at you Brent Calloway) choose to go to a position where the coaches think you have a worse chance of playing if the track record is that half the guys who come in aren't going to play enough to be satisfied? If it was me, and coach said play linebacker, I'd play linebacker. My guess is, 5 star or not, if he doesn't make that move soon, we may never see him with grass stains on his pants.

  • Bamakraut said... (original post)

    I've always thought, even going back to his LSU days, that CNS is the best in the business as a developer of players once they are on campus. So I was thinking about the numbr of players that really contribute in a meaningful way each year vs. the number of players on the roster, and how that relates to player development, etc. I went back to our committment classes from '06 to '09 to see how many of the guys we landed on signing day really contributed. I realize some of these are Shula commits and some are Saban commits, but all spent meaningfull time under CNS' player develoment scheme.

    The interesting conclusion is that just over half of those commits really contributed in an important meaningful way. Even in the outstanding class of '08, by my measure, 16 or 17 of the 31 names really have made a contribution ( I include on that list role players like UBillingsley, RGreen and KMurphy despite two of them not finishing their careers but I exclude guys like WNeighbors who played on special teams, but not is a way that couldn't be replicated by another e.g. he wasn't a Vinnie Sunseri).

    The other interesting conclusion is that there seem to always be a couple of players who don't contribute meaningfully until late in their careers, but end up important anyway. JHarris, CWilliams, Gentry, Watkins, Dial are examples.

    So I'm curious about two things. First, who will be those late bloomers in '012 and '013 that surprise and delight us? Billingsley? Bonds? Atchison? Patrick?

    Second, why would anyone (yes, I'm looking at you Brent Calloway) choose to go to a position where the coaches think you have a worse chance of playing if the track record is that half the guys who come in aren't going to play enough to be satisfied? If it was me, and coach said play linebacker, I'd play linebacker. My guess is, 5 star or not, if he doesn't make that move soon, we may never see him with grass stains on his pants.

    1. I don't know
    2. You're right. It would be dumb not to listen to the coaches. But at RB and LB we are so deep BC may be out of luck either way, but I'd love to see him make it on the field. Eventually, maybe he will be a late contributor. Gentry's contribution as a fat looking undersized nose who made plays all year is one of the more pleasantly surprising of the era.