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RN and RF have really taken it to a whole new level this year. I think both have the potential to be cancers on their football team because they are both big headed and seem to be "me first" players. You may call me crazy because you are gonna say their talent is worth whatever problems they bring, but it might be a blessing in disguise that neither of these players wind up at Alabama.
I've been following recruiting since the early 80's. Sorry if this appears know-it-all-ish, but there's really nothing new under the sun. I've seen these sort of antics for a long, long time. Any player has the "potential to be (a) cancer." There's no doubt about that. But keep in mind that they're 17-year old young men and many of them are not good at handling all of the attention and expectations as well as the other, more mature ones.
One last thing: before you go around slamming RN, keep in mind that he could end up signing with the Tide when this is all said and done. Unless he's just gotten a CU tat, I'd still LOVE to have him play at the Capstone.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by zigzag 2 years ago
yes, if their true characters are as revealed...however, one must be careful--these kids may have "handlers" (whether a parent, a coach, a friend, a covert agent, etc.) that are really running their lives for them, but the point still stands---we don't want them on our team, no matter the talent level, if they don't have character of the Alabama kind.
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Ami the only one noticing that all this drama and recruitment crap is coming from 95% Georgia players. I know that 4-5 of the players ranked in the top 50 are from there but you havnt seen this junk from any other states recruits.
...and troopa is the orchestrator, with a little help from foster.
On Alabama: CeCe Jefferson - "It was a bunch of beautiful women..." Reggie Ragland - "oh the females of course..."
you are right on; we don't need these dumb a$$es on our team
Fact is this is the SEC. It's the most ultra competitive conference going right now. It's cut-throat. & there is no "gentleman's agreement" to not recruit player's when they commit to a school. Like the Big 10 had while Saban was at MSU. All kids are fair game. & our staff does it's share of staying on kids that have given a verbal to another school. We really should all just relax. & realize that as long as the SEC is thriving. It's always gonna be this way. I gotta a feeling we haven't seen anything yet.
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You know you following recruiting is also in a way responsible for this..not yourself but the general fan. As the recruiting websites have grown, sp has the circus at has become high school recruiting. I'm just as guilty and I agree that the kids do shoulder some of the blame. His coach and parents do as well , RN saw a chance to get some friends some bcs level scholarships, interesting to see if dabo keeps his word because I don't think RN will
I don't have a problem with recruits changing their minds.....that happens.....people have a change of heart. What I do however mind is the lack of responsibility and the "me first" attitude these two have had. It is all about them and ONLY them. To heck with the teams and to heck with the coaches. As long as they get to make a spectacle of themselves then that is the only thing that matters. If you have a change of heart then you should do things the right way. Call the coach tell him that you have had a change of heart. Don't read a statement verbatim, and don't flirt around with other schools expecting something. Also don't flaunt your high school teammates and use them as pawns.
I guess Shane thinks Yeldon will flip to Bama after he enrolls at Auburn. Brilliant. Sell those subscriptions, BOL.” - TIGER
The overwhelming majority of these kids live at or below the national poverty level where only around 25% have a father in their lives. Players who come from that environment and maintain good character overcome tremendous odds. Much more than 95% of the individuals who post on this board. The Trent Richardson's of this world are extremely rare. It's one thing to understand a particular recruit has a questionable character. It's quite another to care enough about that kid to help mold him into a productive member of a culture. This is a benefit of college athletics that most people miss. We are more focused on performance on the field than the good of a kid who comes from difficult circumstances. Shame on us.
Smart coaches understand the relation between character and player. One ultimately leads to the other. I have no doubt if a player makes the choice to play for Alabama, he has a clear understanding of Coach Saban's mentality and desires that sort of discipline (the same could be said about other great coaches in college football). We all know that kids who continue to display bad character into their college years do not play for Coach Saban. Can you really imagine any player being a cancer at Bama?
With this knowledge, and seeing these 17/18 y/o kids as human beings, and not a commodity for our personal pursuits, helps me see these recruiting games from a different perspective. We should never bash a kid who is making one of the biggest decisions of his life. His life. Not, our life. A decision that has major ramifications for his entire family.
^this guy gets it.
I have a sign in my office the reads "Bring back common sense". Maybe this is too logical but it's how I approach all this worrying and speculation about RN, RF and any other initialed recruit that's out there.
1.- if any recruit is interested in us--our coaching staff will respond only if they're interested in him. Why? Because WE CAN AFFORD TO BE SELECTIVE! Don't forget we start the process and make the offer not the recruit.
2.- if our coaching staff pursues an athlete then I assume they've done their homework and know just about everything there is to know about the kid and are willing to take a risk on him...or... they believe that regardless of how talented he is it's not worth the potential consequence to the team and they stop recruiting him. But until that happens I'm always going to assume he's still a viable target and will welcome him to the good guys.
3.- In the end......common sense tells me that if Coach Saban wants the kid...then that's good enough for me. I believe he's done a pretty good job up to this point.. (g)
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Excellent statement. Worded like someone that understands that not all people see things the same nor behave in the same manner.
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