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in Knoxville. After the presumed force resignation of the Womens Asst. Athletic Dir. it has now came out through a affidavit sent to the University of Tennessee by the lawyer of Pat Summitt that she had a meeting with Dave Hart 2 weeks before the Womens basketball tourney....in that meeting she said Hart told her she would not be the coach of the Lady Vols next year and that Holly Warlick would be the new coach, but Summitt would be able to keep her office. Pat Summitt said she basicly had no say in the decision and he made that clear to her. Later that month Hart stated to the media that Pat Summit misunderstood him and that was never said in that Summit was being told to step down. It was reported that Hart had made several changes in the Athletic Dept which included letting 5 or 6 coaches in some capacity from different sports and areas go with all being women except for 1 being a male. To make a long story short, Hart seems to be in hot water and it's getting hotter. You pick and choose your battles but he may have picked the wrong one in picking Pat Summitt....easily the most prominent figure in womens sports in the country. He has also made serious waves in wanting to do away with the Lady Vols brand logo. He has pissed a lot of big doners off by wanting to do away with this. If this continues to get worse....and it will.....Mr Hart may have cost himself a AD job, and possibly his future as a AD anywhere. Not sure if any of you guys have heard about this so I wanted to pass it along. I live in Knoxville and it's been the headlines of all the morning sports radio shows.
So pat summits overall declining health had nothing to do with it.
Some think he's on the hot seat. Personally I would love to have him back at UA. He would be a great replacement for Mal Moore when he decides to step aside. Does anyone think it was a good idea to stay on as the coach?
As a Bama fan, I think Hart is right where he needs to be.
Leaders sometimes have to make very unpopular decisions based on good judgement and not on polls or popular opinion. Being able to make such decisions is the mark of a true leader and not that of someone who can give a good speech that "sends a shiver up your leg."
Much ado about nothing. Outside of Knoxville the rest of the world thinks it was a good idea for her to step down given her health circumstances. Forced or not. Legend or not.
And the timing actually worked out quite well for Tennessee.
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“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
On Alabama: CeCe Jefferson - "It was a bunch of beautiful women..." Reggie Ragland - "oh the females of course..."
How about getting the story right, OK? Allow me to interject some truth into this thread.
First of all, it wasn't Summitt's lawyer. It was the lawyer of Debby Jennings.
Second, Jennings wasn't an assistant athletic director. She was the media director for the Lady Vols. She was forced into retirement for insubordination.
Third, the "several changes" you speak of is the consolidation of the men's and women's athletic department into one department, streamlining the department and saving money by eliminating the duplication of services. The people let go were not coaches, as you indicated; they were athletic department employees.
Dave Hart isn't in one bit of hot water....yet. I live in Tennessee also, and most Vol fans agree that Summitt had no business continuing to coach. They were saddened to already see the dementia affecting her on the bench. Dave Hart did Pat Summitt a favor...and most Vol fans know that. Most Vol fans will tell you that the only ones raising a ruckus over this is a minority of supporters of the women's program who hate the men's side of the department...what some refer to as the "lesbian side" of the department.
In addition, most Vol fans realize that Warlick is very close to Summitt and would never have agreed to taking the job if the situation did not have Summitt's blessing.
Vol fans also are angry at Jennings for dragging Summitt into this. No Vol fan is looking forward to Summitt having to take the stand in open court, with her dementia on display for the whole world to see.
Debby Jennings was insubordinate, among other reasons, for fighting Hart over his decision about Summitt. She stupidly asserts that Summitt's dementia is protected by the American with Disabilities Act. It's like saying that an airline pilot who goes blind should be protected from losing his job.
Like I said, Hart's job is 100% safe at this point, and the Summitt situation won't affect that one bit. The only thing that can touch Hart here is if Jennings' lawsuit has merit...and I don't think it does. Vol fans are far more concerned about the football program, and Hart is going to do what has to be done to fix the problems there.
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Not so fast not every person that has worked at Alabama needs to stay at Alabama.
That sounds believable but I hope he fails at reviving that stinking football program they are right where they belong.
they can keep dave hart.
Dave Hart was at FSU during the embarrasing scandal with 1/3rd of the football team suspended for the bowl game. I never thought much of his hire at Alabama to begin with and I'm glad he's gone. No offense to those who like him but he seems to find controversy.
From Go Vols website...
Hart left Florida State after the school’s president, T.K. Wetherell, told him that his contract would not be renewed after its January 2009 completion. Hart’s departure came in the midst of a self-reported academic scandal with the NCAA that resulted in the vacation of wins for the football team, four years of probation and various penalties in 10 sports.
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No argument here. But if he gets run off, I want it to be by us because we kicked their a$$es, not by the man haters up there because he tried to do things the right way.
Wow... do I now feel old.
Well it certainly sounds like you know more than I do. I was just saying tidbits from what I heard on the radio from the sports animal 99.1. Summitt actually came out today and said she wasn't forced out......if that's the case then why the affidavit with her quotes in it. Somebody either delivered some cash to Mrs. jennings to try to end this or somebody is lying. I believe D. Hart is doing what he thinks is best and obviously Pat Summitt's health is a huge factor. I stand corrected on the full story but I just heard callers calling in saying different things and we all know everything on the radio isn't the bible. The only reason I brought it up is because Hart was here at Bama and a lot of people like him and there was muddy water in Knoxville. Either way it may be all about one lady wanting some cash or publicity. Just thought it was interesting. You're the man though....my bad.
Your first mistake was believeing anything you hear on the 99.1 especially if it comes from Dearstone. Frankly I don't believe there is a bit of truth to the assertion that Hart told Summitt to step down(As she confirmed tday). She's a legendary coach and it does not work that way. He did however consolidate the athletic Department which was sorely needed. IMO its incredibly stupid to have separate AD's for mens and womens sports with separate logos etc. I don't think Hart's done anything wrong and this Jennings chick is just sour grapes.
All that said I hope UT drags themselves through the mud some more and the trial gets lots of national attention. They so richly deserve it.
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