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Been thinking about this ... and the more I think about the state of college football, the more worried I get that the SECCG could be more of a hindrance than something that helps. No one in the Big XII has to play a championship game right now. And Notre Dame will just have to be in the top 4 without playing in one either. Just doesn't seem fair.
Consider these scenarios ...
*In 2010, AU was clearly one of the 4 best teams in the country. But say they slip on a last-sec FG to a 4-loss SC team. They're out.
*Let's say in 2014 we're sitting at 11-1, ranked 4th. We go into the SECCG and have to go to OT to beat a 8-4 Florida. But Oklahoma is sitting 5th and the voters - and computers - don't think that's impressive enough. We end up 5th.
*I know, the role could reverse, of course. We could be sitting 5th and blow out someone in Atlanta and springboard to 4th or higher.
I guess my point is this ... in my opinion, in 2014 when the playoff gets here, they top 4 should be set before conference championship games. Because ND and the Big XII don't have that risk exposure, we shouldn't allow the privilege of playing for a conference championship to actually cost you.
Any thoughts on this?
<-- and when are we getting this fixed!
Here's the thing...to US, we look at all the potential changes asking is this the "fairest way to determine champion?" The NCAA and universities look from the perspective "is this the a somewhat more fair way that, more importantly, will make us more money?"
THE SECCG aint going anywhere because its a huge money maker, and one of the reasons is because of the stakes...this year's game wouldnt have gotten HALF the ratings if it had been just for the SEC title, but both teams knowing they are in. Further, if it "doesnt count" it could work against you. Say its #1 Alabama against #5Florida.......is it fair to tell Florida that if they win it doesnt matter that Bama still goesn they are left out because it doesnt count?
I think the voters will help sort this out....had there been the 4 team playoff THIS year, I firmly believe most voters would have kept Georgia higher. The reality is that for voters, they know after 1-2 it doesnt really matter so they dont worry about that as much.
Will the SEC Championship still make tons of money? When fans have to start thinking about going to playoff games as well? Interesting question imho.
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Great topic. I love the SEC championship game, but I do wish all of the other "top" teams would have to play a similar game before the selection committee decides.
With our championship game, it seems like the champion would almost always go, and then the better "2nd place in the division" team might go (like Florida this year went to the BCS game instead of Georgia).
Unfortunately, I feel there is going to be a lot of pressure to limit the SEC to one team in the playoffs.
It really makes me wonder what the preparation will be like. Will you really have to prepare for all three teams (emphasizing your first match-up)?
I think the pressure of playing in the SECCG is great preparation for the NCG. I also think that just as often the SECCG could help the SEC champion get in the four team playoff. What if Georgia is undefeated and #2 and Alabama has one loss and is #5 or #6? An Alabama win would probably get them in. At the same time, an undefeated #1 Alabama that loses to a #3 undefeated Florida probably wouldn't drop out of the top 4.
I also think the lack of a championship game could hurt the Big 12. A one loss #5 Texas would have no way to improve their standing after the season ends.
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The more I've thought about this the more I now believe the four game playoff is going to be a short lived stepping stone to an eight game playoff. The 8 game deal will erase your concerns IMO, it will also unfortunately diminish and dilute what CFB is even further than this 4 team thing is going to do.
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yep....fans buying tickets is a drop in the bucket. The money comes from CBS...
I agree. I HATE that in 5 or 6 years two or 3 loses in the regular season may still afford you the shot to get to the title game. I know some of the games have been boring and over all the BCS bowl matchups really blow, but over the past 8 years or so, the truth is the BCS has done what it is designed to do. At the end of the day the best team in the country throughout the season won the championship. The playoff just rewards the teams who may be playing their best at the right moment and that to me isnt right.
I could care less about this really. I would have loved for Bama's 2010 team to have gotten in an 8 team playoff. You can't honestly tell me we wouldn't have stood a good chance at making a run in a playoff format that year? While yes it sucks in a way. It can still lead us to Championship's even in "down years." I say bring it on.
I think the SECCG is an advantage and the winner is almost always going to be in the top 4!
Consider how easy it is for a SEC dominate team to have one loss.... the SECCG can help a team overcome that loss and vault the team into the top 4.
The teams without a championship games may end up being the loser... can you imagine Bama winning the SEC championship game and a one loss LSU or A&M also being in the top 4 therefore pushing out a Big 12 winner or even ND? I think that might happen.
Everyone should be in a conference and every conference should have a championship game
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If that happens then only one team per conference is gonna get in imo. They will then say conference winners only when that day comes.
It's my understanding this thing is locked for 12 years.
Nothing is ever locked when $ is involved.
Of course I would have loved to had a shot that year.....and we did have a shot....but then we lost 3 games and that was it. It's exactly what makes college football so special. I can live with an 8 team playoff. Anything more than that and you really begin to devalue what makes college football the best sport in the country.
What sucks is situations where the top two SEC teams play, but this year Florida was ranked #3 and got rewarded with a bye week. While we had several players get injured in the game.
It isn't the winner of that game everyone is concerned with. It's the loser of that game.
This year for example. Had we not had a championship it would have been us Georgia, Florida and Notre dame in the playoff.
With the SECCG though Georgia would have been knocked out and Florida still would have had a shot and all for nothing.
That was from the mouth of the director this morning on JOX. Said he could not see it getting any bigger without affecting the regular season or bowl integrity.
I don't think the SECCG is going anywhere, too big of a TV draw. However, I share your concern, it would suck to be 11-1, lose in the SECCG, and get knocked out of the playoffs. For example in 2001 LSU 8-3 beat Tennessee 10-1 or 2005 when #3 LSU lost to Georgia.
I would expect him to say that at this point as well. But ESPN/ABC have the money to make all of them rethink things. After all they are the driving force behind this 4 team playoff we've got coming.
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