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Siap.....Cullman/Walker fight

  • I went to Cullman, played at Cullman, and live in Cullman. I know the coach and played with the coach. He is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. He's not being punished because he did not instigate the fight, or do anything besides try to take up for his players and himself.

    You can say all you want about my town, but I can tell you are not very educated about Cullman.

    And get over the Britt thing. Justin was actually suspended from all high school sports after his altercation in Arab. He screwed up, and was punished for it.

    Whoever said something about this being a boog town, come on man! Did you go to one party around some boogs, and think it was the whole city of cullman.

  • I know the Cullman coach that is involved and he is a stand up guy. I do not know specific details of what caused the confrontation but by video only, the walker coach clearly initiated contact.

  • Big Jewbowski said... (original post)

    I would be careful next time you crank your John Deere.

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    The Walker County Mafia

    I was born and raised in Cullman county and can vouch for Cullman being pretty racist and backwards. Cullman city school isn't well liked. Some real pr!cks. But Walker county is known for being a little rough around the edges. No surprise they can't get along.

  • Theta

    Reminds me of the County-Central games in the '90s. Always a fight after the game on the field. If I remember correctly there was a fence installed at TC's stadium and it's sole purpose was to separate the fans for when Central played there every other year.

    Fun times.

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  • Big Jewbowski said... (original post)

    Please do not interpret my post as defending Cullman. I have no dog in this hunt either.

    But there is clear video evidence of the Walker County coach cold-cocking the Cullman coach. That is what we know from the video. Regardless what else may come out - and it will take some investigating, I suppose - there's no getting around what the Walker County skank did here. Suspension with pay is a no-brainer, and will be be the least of his concerns as this shakes out.

    Ya but who usually gets caught? The guy that started the whole thing by trash talking or taking cheap shots or the guy that retaliates? i mean hes still in the wrong big time, but I doubt the other coach is completely innocent. We couldn't retaliate really. It was the last game of the regular season. They were done and we were ranked number two in the state. Our coaches just pulled us all after halftime. They were doing stuff like diving at our legs on kickoffs and chop blocking and whatever they could do in a pile up. Jabbing at our eyes through our facemask, kneeing us. Just your regular pile up trash play. One of our guys got a broken femur on kickoff by a Cullman guy diving at his legs. It was kind of funny what they did in the secondary. They put this kid that was like 6'2 240 at safety. Not lying. I mean we burnt them all night long but if it was a short pass toward the sideline where our wr's got bottled in he came in flying laying the wood. Knocked two of our wrs out cold. One of them laid there knocked out for like 30 seconds and came to and started yelling "I cant see coach, im blind, I cant see." We were like "open your eyes", and ya that worked. He could see then lol. From that game there was a broken femur and a broken back.

    One of our guys did get ejected in the second quarter for retaliating. So back the original point. That's just how it shakes out most of the time. I really have no clue what happened here and im not interested to find out. Theres just no room for that in high school athletics. If Cullman doesn't suspend the coaches the AHSAA needs to step in if he threw one punch. Ive never been around any coaches like that.We got into a bench clearing brawl with JSU while I was at Samford. The coaches from both sides threw themselves between the players and squashed it.

    Theres a disturbing trend in America right now with fighting at sporting events. Did any of yall see the Real Sports episode that dealt with the referees getting attacked more and more often across the nation. Some ref out West got killed with one punch to the head by a kid. One punch. People don't realize how fragile life is. Kicking a guy in the head while hes on the ground is way out of line. How is the guy not in jail? Or did the coach get arrested?

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  • Ahhh!!! The Walker coach was my old coach from Hamilton High School from 2000-2002.
    He is a good coach and very fiery. All the hot chicks in school were always trying to hook up with him. He was a ladies man and funny as hell. Sort of surprised to see this, but not if it was instigated. Coach Holladay was always one to not take ish. He was an amazing quarterback in his high school days and could throw a ball as hard as anyone I have ever seen. Hate to see him in so much trouble, but clearly deserves it in this case. After he left our school and I was graduated, I heard rumors that he may have tapped some of the girls that were after him. One of the girls mother was a teacher and got pissed. He didn't get any charges because she was 18. I never really believed it too much due to the massive false rumor mill of that town. Anyway, coach has a hell of a swing. Not surprised since he could rocket a ball so hard... Ha!

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  • GOAT 14 said... (original post)

    I went to Cullman, played at Cullman, and live in Cullman. I know the coach and played with the coach. He is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. He's not being punished because he did not instigate the fight, or do anything besides try to take up for his players and himself.

    You can say all you want about my town, but I can tell you are not very educated about Cullman.

    And get over the Britt thing. Justin was actually suspended from all high school sports after his altercation in Arab. He screwed up, and was punished for it.

    Whoever said something about this being a boog town, come on man! Did you go to one party around some boogs, and think it was the whole city of cullman.

    Ill take your word for it then on this coach. You would know better than any of us. But the other stuff I said is first hand experience. And the cross burning stuff was in the news paper. Cullman is not friendly to minorities. Cullman does have a reputation. And I lived it when we played them. It was the cheapest, dirtiest sporting event of my life. And my dad experienced the same exact thing in the 60's. Maybe things have changed. Ill take your word about the coach now.

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  • These schools have had a heated rivalry for years, and almost ended up in a fight after last year's game. It had been decided and told to the players before the game that there would be no post-game handshakes and that the teams were to go to their locker rooms as soon as the game was over.
    I don't know what the Cullman DC was doing going toward the Walker side of the field. Maybe he was trying to be a good sport, maybe he was jawing, who knows. But it appears from the video that he was saying something and it makes me wonder what he was doing and saying that close to the Walker team. There is no question that whatever he said is no justification for a fist fight.
    I hope that Savarese has some guts and lays down the law to both of these schools. There is absolutely no excuse for what happened. Coaches are supposed to be above these kinds of actions. I would put both teams on probation for five years, hold the penalty in abeyance unless and until either of the teams are involved in any other altercation, at which point the full penalty would be imposed. I would issue an order that the Walker coach could not ever coach again in Alabama, and suspend the Cullman coach for the remainder of the year, and fine the crap out of both schools.
    And, for the record, I have relatives who graduated from both schools, but have no allegiance to either school.

  • CrimsonWall23 said... (original post)

    Walker County is a different breed of human being

    Damn i never knew i was a different breed of human being lol...

  • bama1333 said... (original post)

    Damn i never knew i was a different breed of human being lol...

    That's why you love BOL. You learn something new each time you visit. biggrin

  • mwk4ala said... (original post)

    Let me tell you something. Not all of the people from Walker County are "skanky" as you say. I was born and raised in Walker County and now reside in Shelby County. I know some very fine people from Walker County and maybe you are making assumptions that you know nothing about. I'm not sure why people want to label all folks from Walker County based off of maybe a few bad apples. Maybe your ignorance is legendary by stating such remarks. I'm not trying to be a prick but when you attack the place that I was raised and mark Walker County as skanky, I take offense to that.

    You are right. I was way out of line. I am so sorry. Please do not slit my dog's throat or bomb my house.

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  • So funny to read all of this,my folks are from Jasper area

  • oldnoncom said... (original post)

    I was born in Cullman. They say I was anyway. Most of my folks still do live there, but none of 'em play football. Very large Awbun following in that town. I have no idea what happened between them and Walker County. Hated to see that on the news wire. Not a good thing.

    Not a huge awb following here. I'd say way more Bama fans in this town.

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  • Big Jewbowski said... (original post)

    Please do not interpret my post as defending Cullman. I have no dog in this hunt either.

    But there is clear video evidence of the Walker County coach cold-cocking the Cullman coach. That is what we know from the video. Regardless what else may come out - and it will take some investigating, I suppose - there's no getting around what the Walker County skank did here. Suspension with pay is a no-brainer, and will be be the least of his concerns as this shakes out.

    I was at the game Friday night. First of all I am not sayings what Coach Holliday did was just. When videos are placed for others to see, they need to be the complete video, or from all angles, also it is easy to base opinions when the whole story is not available. As stated in other post it was decided before the game that the teams would not meet after the game. The game was a real heated game, with penalties going both ways most of the night, Cullman scored the go ahead touchdown with 18sec left on the clock. At this point I don't understand why the Cullman coach(DC) was not going to his locker room(he just won the game), which would be to the left end of the field if you are looking at the video. If you look at the video the fight took place around the 20-30 yard line on the end of the field toward Walker's locker room, the way Coach Holliday and the team were heading. Also if you watch the film you will notice that Coach Holliday starts pointing toward the other end of the field telling him to go away(I know you can't hear him say these words), this come from some of the players that were near Holliday. Also still not saying what was done was right, but the report of the words and language, and looks that was coming from the Cullman coach toward Coach Holliday and his team and family wasn't professional either, and should be looked at also because Cullman is not without fault here also. If Cullman coach had went to his locker room instead of instigating a fight we would not be talking about this. Walker coach was headed to his locker room. With all the emotions and everything else going on things snapped(Not Good). So with all this, I still don't see how Cullman School System can come out and say their coach or player(s) will not be disciplined.See Cullman player in video come flying across field and tackle Walker player(good tackle), they are on Walker's end of the field, not doing what was decided before the game. Seems like someone else don't have control of there team either. So there seems to be plenty of blame to go around for both schools, and I really hate to see it. A lot of good adults and kids will have to pay for the actions of a couple. MY TAKE.

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  • As a former Walker County resident, none of this surprises me in the least.

  • thrill2k1

    No matter what, this is unacceptable. Poor examples for all the players, students, fans, etc.

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  • Big Jewbowski said... (original post)

    You are right. I was way out of line. I am so sorry. Please do not slit my dog's throat or bomb my house.

    Does making fun of other folks make you feel good about yourself? Obviously you have a problem with people from Walker County and I will just chalk it up as you being ignorant and judgmental.

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  • I HATE ORANGE said... (original post)

    I was at the game Friday night. First of all I am not sayings what Coach Holliday did was just. When videos are placed for others to see, they need to be the complete video, or from all angles, also it is easy to base opinions when the whole story is not available. As stated in other post it was decided before the game that the teams would not meet after the game. The game was a real heated game, with penalties going both ways most of the night, Cullman scored the go ahead touchdown with 18sec left on the clock. At this point I don't understand why the Cullman coach(DC) was not going to his locker room(he just won the game), which would be to the left end of the field if you are looking at the video. If you look at the video the fight took place around the 20-30 yard line on the end of the field toward Walker's locker room, the way Coach Holliday and the team were heading. Also if you watch the film you will notice that Coach Holliday starts pointing toward the other end of the field telling him to go away(I know you can't hear him say these words), this come from some of the players that were near Holliday. Also still not saying what was done was right, but the report of the words and language, and looks that was coming from the Cullman coach toward Coach Holliday and his team and family wasn't professional either, and should be looked at also because Cullman is not without fault here also. If Cullman coach had went to his locker room instead of instigating a fight we would not be talking about this. Walker coach was headed to his locker room. With all the emotions and everything else going on things snapped(Not Good). So with all this, I still don't see how Cullman School System can come out and say their coach or player(s) will not be disciplined.See Cullman player in video come flying across field and tackle Walker player(good tackle), they are on Walker's end of the field, not doing what was decided before the game. Seems like someone else don't have control of there team either. So there seems to be plenty of blame to go around for both schools, and I really hate to see it. A lot of good adults and kids will have to pay for the actions of a couple. MY TAKE.

    You know, if things have disintegrated to the point that the teams decide prior to the game that there will be no post-game handshake, it is probably not a good idea to play the game at all. MY TAKE.

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  • Thugs, if this was Carver High in Montgomery this word would have been plastered all over the board. If the was a school from mobile like Prichard or Williamson they would have been called thugs. What's the difference in this situation?

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  • Wheeler1000 said... (original post)

    Thugs, if this was Carver High in Montgomery this word would have been plastered all over the board. If the was a school from mobile like Prichard or Williamson they would have been called thugs. What's the difference in this situation?

    They are white so they are skanks.

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    Wheeler1000 said... (original post)

    Thugs, if this was Carver High in Montgomery this word would have been plastered all over the board. If the was a school from mobile like Prichard or Williamson they would have been called thugs. What's the difference in this situation?

    No teeth instead of gold teeth.

  • This thread makes me really glad I'm from Huntsville.

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  • Big Jewbowski said... (original post)

    You know, if things have disintegrated to the point that the teams decide prior to the game that there will be no post-game handshake, it is probably not a good idea to play the game at all. MY TAKE.

    You are correct. This was the last game they were going to play against each other. Due to "contracts", this game was going to be played this final time. Hind site bad decision. No one will ever know, but might have been a little more fuel to add to all the other emotions. Still no excuse for the actions of some.

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  • mwk4ala said... (original post)

    Does making fun of other folks make you feel good about yourself? Obviously you have a problem with people from Walker County and I will just chalk it up as you being ignorant and judgmental.

    Ma'am, the last thing I would ever want to do is make fun of a native of your land. Please accept my sincerest apologies.

    On an unrelated note: HAS ANYONE SEEN FIDO??

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