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I just watched the game for the 5th time so in honor of #5 te'o I wanted to see just how bad of a game he had.
Stats that don't matter - the 10 tackles espn credited te'o for.
Stats that do matter -
9 missed and or broken tackles.
6 times where he was just blown up by a block.
Did not count the times he just got kind of blocked, took a bad angle or was just fooled by the play.
I'm really not trying to pile on the kid but it just pissed me off how much he was hyped up while CJ got hardly any recognition.
Lastly if he weighs 255 either his @$$ is filled with led or Lacy weighs 265.
Thanks for the info. +1 for you.
Agree. Te'o is not 255 but neither is Lacy 225. Te'o looked small against us and the other backers didn't. I'm thinking the numbers are reversed and Te'o is 225 and Lacy is 250.
ND LB's stunted a lot to avoid blocks instead of playing traditional LB by standing up and shedding blocks and then making the tackle.
Heard someone on the radio call him "Boyti Te'o". Probably old but I laughed. I still think he's a good player but like all ND players overrated.
This post was edited by RTR 65 18 months ago
He was also burned on the TD to Williams. He got caught looking inside for the run and MW ran right past him for the TD. MT is an average LB that put up stats against a weak schedule and poor offenses. If he played in the SEC he wouldn't make first team all-conference. Not really his fault the media overhypes ND players.Seems like a good guy.No way is he 6'2" 255.
I wouldn't take three MT's for one CJM.
I agree with you completely and appreciate the work. Here were my thoughts below a Mel Kiper article that very few people read or commented on:
You can vote Manti Teo the best LB of 2012. I'll vote him the most overrated player in CFB history (did you see that list of awards? can some analyst acknowledge that someone other than Teo played defense this season- possibly played well too).
The perfect storm of over-hype -- overcoming adversity, playing for Notre Dame, having multiple Notre Dame homers at ESPN, being surrounded on his team (apparently) by garbage players so he can stand out more-- the stars don't align like this very often.
I personally will enjoy watching Teo fall out of the top 10 (the pros make business decisions- they don't write Disney stories) based on one telling, awful performance, which the hype machine is already looking for ways to excuse (HE WAS OVERPERSUING TRYING TO MAKE A BIG PLAY TO HELP HIS TEAM -- GIVE ME A BREAK).
Oh, and nice pick on ND to win the NC. Ha!
The part at the end of your post reminded me of this ND fan's response I had on another forum the other day. I called Te'o overrated and pointed out his missed tackles in the backfield, among other things. Response made me LMAO. Apparently his teammates are to blame for his missed tackles.
" I think it's mostly on him but normally when you make a dude cut 3 yards in the backfield you would have 2-3 other guys rallying to make the tackle at the line of scrimmage even if you miss. Unless they are all being vacuum blocked into oblivion or if a couple guys are in the wrong gaps.
But again I agree with the overhyped stuff and maybe he isn't as good as the Alabama LBs but like I said he's still going to get drafted very high and that isn't only because of hype. "
He is athletic but not incredibly athletic. I didn't really get it either. Hightower for example is just a superior prospect to me particularly in the ability to shed blocks.
Not that it matters but I bet anyone he gets measured at 6'0" 240 at the Combine. Unless he puts on weight in the next month or so. We all know EL is bigger than 225. Has to be, if not then I am totally fooled. He looks 15 lbs bigger than MT, and a little taller
“Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift of God, which is why we call it the present.”
Word was from the Alabama media in Miami was that MT was small. Not only was he on the short side but his frame was small as well. I'd be surprised if he is 6' or if he weighs more than 225. That's a huge person next to me but a small MLB in the NFL.
He also isn't athletic at all. That's his biggest problem. He plays the position like a guy that is 6'3 255 when he is much smaller than that. When faced against a team that has speed he was very slow. When you are small and slow you don't play in the NFL.
His stats on the season are also not all that great considering the defensive system they have at Notre Dame. 103 tackles is not a lot for a guy in that position. Everyone got all Gaga over his interceptions as they should. 7 ints is a lot for a LB. However, after watching him play against us I have to question how many of those picks came from him being overly aggressive?
My biggest complaint of MT is that he didn't play with any discipline. That could have been the magnitude of the game or could be his style but he put himself in bad position after bad position all game long. Most of the missed tackles he had came from him blindly heading up field and essentially over running the play. Lacy is good at cutting but MT made him look like Barry Sanders with his constant over pursuit.
A small and slow player that plays without discipline has no place in the NFL. Whoever drafts him will be wasting a draft pick and if they do it in the first round could be setting their team back a few years. Most years you only get 1 first round pick and you can't afford to waste it on a guy that I don't think can play in the NFL.
He is too slow to play on the outside or at Safety. He doesn't have the discipline or size to play in the middle.
Lastly, most people in the media are choosing to ignore his career at Notre Dame but he spent most of it being labeled uncoachable. He refused to play with discipline and wouldn't run the coverages the way the DC had drawn them up. There was a little story on ESPN radio around the 3rd or 4th week of the season where the DC was interviewed and he talked about how he finally got MT to buy in to doing things his way. He said he was always wanting to make every play and was getting out of position too much and therefore putting the whole defense in a bad place. He went on to say that MT hated dropping back in to coverage also. He said they finally got through to him this offseason and it paid off. People change and grow up and all that jazz but watching him play with no discipline in the National Title game makes me wonder how reliable he can be in the NFL playing the most important position on the defense.
The play you are referring to, Steen tripped at the line. Unless Steen reached out and grabbed his foot, he was untouched and didn't come close to making the play.
I honestly don't think Te'o starts for Saban. Of course if he was in T-town he would probably be a lot better but he would be riding the pine after the 2nd or 3rd missed tackle, or 2-3rd being out of place.
This post was edited by bamamba1989 18 months ago
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