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I will only watch a few games a weekend, and they include teams like NE, DEN, GB, NYG, HOU, PITT, NO, ATL. Why? Because you get QB play and the pro game is based on QB play.
The thing I dont understand about the NFL is, why aren't there more good QB's. I could have named more teams, but the ones that stand out is where I went. I am mainly talking about the bottom half of the whole league. Worst QB play by more teams this year as I have EVER seen. See these teams:
Chiefs (sadly been My team since 1988)
Bears (Dont try and sell me on Cutler either)
Thats just 10-11 off the top of my head. Why is there so much "poor" QB play? Is it bad evaluation, contract pressure to play the guy being paid, or just plain ole poor QB play? Its a passing league nowadays and the bell has not been answered by more than half the league. Reminds me of the 80's-90's when you knew teams like WASH, DEN, BUF, SF, DAL, MIA, and NYG were gonna be good because of QB play. Preface: I am not saying NFL QB play is bad as a whole, I am saying that there are TOO many really really POOR QB's that have no business leading pro offenses. NONE.
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Just getting in on this because I would like to hear the answer as well
I think it has to do with a college level shift to a gadget type spread offense. That just doesn't work in the NFL. An offense like, say, Malzahn's is meant to hide inferior talent, and really only clicks with a guy that's willing to tuck it as often as he's willing to try to drop a 20 yard out route in the bucket.
Case in Point what you just saw with the game on the line. Dude is trash.
How many guys do you think there are out there who have the right size, arm, mental makeup, ability to stay healthy, read defenses that quickly etc., who can actually do that well?
It's not like teams are holding anyone back, they're going with the best guys that they have.
Think if it like hockey goalie in the NHL. How many guys can do that at that level, consistently and excel? Maybe 10-15. If you don't have a stud at the position you try and make due because that's all you can do.
Hope that helps.
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Agree with ecp.
My Jags drafted a qb from Mizzou that ran a poor example of the spread and Gabbert is clueless when it comes to reading defenses and making changes at the line.
A lot of these qbs like this are horrid!
And that's why a guy like McElroy will make
It when he gets a real shot. Smart and can check down.
I don't see how this Titan punter has a job. He may not after tonight.
... ok, except Mark Sanchez. Yeah, I don't get it either.
I would agree that college level play has gone by the wayside to a spread look from a lot of teams, but not all of them. I mean I think you can still run that stuff in the NFL. Just not so much QB running. 8-10 times a game cant be all that bad. These QBs in the NFL arent just playing bad, they cant make simple throws or simple game time decisions. Case in point again with Mark Sanchez..lol, WOW.
The QB is only about 30% of the reason why the spread isn't run. It takes an entirely different skill set to be a spread OL also.
What annoys me is the recycling of crap. It's like the same QB's get shuffled around between teams every year. Maybe moreso with backup QB's.
Hehe, Well I would never think about comparing an NHL hockey goalie and an NFL QB. Again, I am not talking about intangibles as much as I am talking about delivering the ball to an easy target, not taking a sack (ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE QB PROTECTION RULES NOWADAYS), all the delay of games that drive coaches crazy, etc etc. POOR QB play from half the league. HALF. Why? Is it over coaching? Too much pressure to perform? Its gotta be ALL mental because I refuse to believe these multi-million dollar investment QB's arent good enough to make the easy plays consistently. Im answering my own question... Its Mental.
Oh I agree with you totally bro. But like I said before, I am only talking about the poor QB play with half the league. The easy throws, the taking of sacks in crucial times when holding the ball so long, the delay of games, etc. That type of play. Its not just Sanchez, its more than 14 other teams.
LOL... Not sure you want to go with an NHL comparison for an Alabama crowd.
LOL, Not with any crowd. Not sure where the comparison lies. I like the attempt though. I love C-Dubs' curve balls from time to time. Keeps us sharp (G)
I think the problem is that most of these QBs played soft defenses in college and those crazy stats got them drafted early.
Think about all the QBs that beat us and where they are now. Most are fairly successful. The others like McElroy are third stringers whose sole job is to read the defense and report it to the starter when he comes to the sideline. That's how Tom Brady, and Brett Favre got started.
It's the toughest position to play in pro sports.
Because half of these guys don't care to be great. No way Sanchez is a hard worker. He gets his huge check and does the minimum required. From looking at his coach I'd say he is the same.
The great ones out work everyone else.
I think there are a couple of things that come into play.
1. The spread O that some of these qbs came from hide some of their deficiencies as a qb.
2. With a lot of teams in college going to the spread to try and out score teams defense, for the most part, is not as important.
3. Like scottschap said, I think some do not have the work ethic that Brady and Manning's have.
I think this does have something to do with it. And with these offenses being more used in HS now too many of these guys never get the training they used to receive in prep for the "pro-style" game.
run the ball
It's still mostly what they have between the ears. Majority of them have more than enough god given talent. But are they gonna be dedicated to being a leader to much older guys? Are they gonna be dedicated to do the extra film work involved? To do the things needed in the off season? This is what makes the great NFL qb's great.
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The answer is pretty simple IMO. It takes an exceptional talent to be an elite QB. There just isn't enough talent to go around.
I think it might be because all the teams are so very even (the bad ones are still stocked with the best college has to offer) and run the same system. You don't get this large group of good QBs like in college where there is a much larger gap between the good and bad teams, and running different systems. You can run pro-style, spreads, hurry ups, options, pistols or just about any other kind of offense that features the talents of the QB. In the NFL you can't do that because of the quality of defensive players. You have to be able to drop back and pass, no matter if you can run or not.
Also on your list I would add the Eagles to that list of bad QB play.
I would take off the Dolphins, Titans, Jags, Browns, and Minnesota from bad QBs and put them in the TBD category. They all have guys that are in their 2nd year as a pro or less. I think Tannihill at Miami will be pretty good. I think Locker with my Titans will suck, but I don't think we know for sure right now. Same with Gabbert at Jax. Not sure on Ponder at Minnesota but he is trending crappy. And who knows with Weeden in Clev, since he is a rookie.
This. I think very few of us have any idea how much (and how fast) a QB has to process mentally to play in the NFL.
Someone truly has to be a "total package" both physically and mentally to be a competent NFL QB. There just aren't that many of those guys out there.
How many of those teams listed have QBs that could be good if they had time to throw the ball? I know the Rams with Sam Bradford are one them. He doesn't have time to breathe when he drops back it seems.
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