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Let me help Mr. Bray. It's because your son is a mental midget who one scout described as a "sociopath" and who another described as having the worst white board session he had ever seen. Being an NFL QB involves more than just being physically gifted.
Jeff Bray, of course, had more than a passing interest in the NFL Draft that went sideways for his son a week ago. [Jeff Bray] said Chiefs coach Andy Reid called before the draft ended, expressing an
I'm sure teams were also questioning his low production with two 1st round WRs. Bray sucks and is one of the most overhyped QB's in the past decade in the SEC. I will miss him.
Dad sounds like a menopausal woman IMO.
Typical arse that's been fed the "you're the greatest" by his parents from the time he was a baby. Unfortunately, they've fooled themselves into believing their own lie.
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Last year AJ broke the all-time TD pass record at Alabama (by 10). Bray threw 4 more than AJ last year in two fewer games. His numbers were pretty good.
He is an example of stats not adding up to the player. He had a tendency to go missing in big games and feel pressured when nobody was around. It also should be noted that for most of his career he padded his stats in weak, non-conf games. I think about half of his yards and TD's came in their 4 non-conf games last year too.
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He had some better stats than expected but he also had nearly 140 more pass attempts than AJ in two fewer games. AJ also had a 10 TD to 1 Int ratio compared to Brays greater 3 TD's for 1 Int.
Also, Bray played the full game against lesser opponents. Tennesee was in a struggles or kept Bray in. Some of Bray's biggest games were against Akron (43 ATT) and Troy (47 ATT) and Mizzou (54 ATT) and Kentucky which those four games compiled 60% or so of his seasons yardage.
South Carolina may have been his best game...which they still lost. He struggled to throw a 100 yards against Vandy and Miss. St. Georgia and Florida were abominations where he turned the ball over several times. I probably should not have used the word "production" because you are right in the fact the bottom line does not look bad. I'm guessing the Scouts took note of this fact as well. If AJ had 140 more attempts, me and you are celebrating Alabama's second Heisman over a couple of bourbon's in NY.
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Yeah, but then it wouldn't be as special this year, so I'm good with it :)
I would have to look at their games and how far behind they were and how soon. He was probably chucking it all over the place starting mid 2nd quarter every game.
I've made a big point about this with him for years now. Against teams who didn't have a losing record, he had right at a 1:1 td:int ratio. He just tosses the ball at random, and when playing bad teams his receivers turned it into production. When his guys weren't so open or the timing wasn't perfect, he could be a disaster. When you're just playing backyard football, because you don't have any idea how to make real decisions, your production will vary wildly with the quality of opponent.
How many picks? What were his SEC stats?
Give the dad a break guys...it's his son. I'm no parent but if I were, I hope I would think my son is the best at whatever he does.
12 picks I think. You can use google as well as I can.
Just crunching the numbers, if AJ gets Bray's ATT this past season it reads like this:
306 Completions 451 Attempts 67%
4240 Yards, 44 TD's, 4 Ints
This season translates into better numbers than Heisman winning QB's (compared more to pocket passers than Tebow, RGIII) in Carson Palmer, Jason White, Matt Leinart and most comparable to Sam Bradford who would be the only QB with a higher rating at 180.3.
I think you may be missing my point. It was not to say Bray is better than AJ. He clearly is not. My point was simply that it's not really accurate to say Bray didn't put up numbers in college when he threw 4 more TD's than our QB in the season where he obliterated the record for most TD passes in a season at UA. Bray has lots of physical talent and did put up significant numbers as a QB in college. I think we will see a huge dropoff this year at UT from what Bray did, especially with Patterson and Hunter also leaving. What, in the end, sets a QB like AJ apart from him is maturity and discipline (not to mention having a brain).
In making a comparison like yours, you'd also have to take into account that UT's defense was horrible and Bray didn't get the advantage of good field position nearly as often as AJ, and other teams didn't have to respect UT's run game nearly as much as they did ours. There are a lot of variables. Others talked about UT playing from far behind every game, which really wasn't the case. They phoned it in the last two games and didn't score many points, but they took UGA and SC to the wire, and were right there with UF for three quarters. However you slice it and whatever spin you want to put on it, 34 TD passes in a year is a lot.
This post was edited by crimsonlawyer 11 months ago
I obviously don't care what his stats were. Just pointing out that the number of TDs a QB throws is pretty meaningless in a vacuum.
Dad just mad that son can't pay off the house now.
Being an NFL QB involves more than just being physically gifted.
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