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Big UT alum tells me and insists that Kirby Smart will be the next Tenn head coach.
They watch his defenses with pride they are so sure,even tho it is Ala and they do hate us..
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Fast Eddie2 19 months ago
Probably so if they fire Dooley and offer him. It would be really hard for him to turn that down.
With Dave Hart there I would expect to look heavily at Kirby, and yea they may not find a more proven option.
We are getting conflicting information then. I live here in Chattanooga and play golf with a big UT booster. He gives much money to the program. He told me if Dooley is let go they have tried two young guns and neither worked out. His words (Kiffin was a disaster), he thought Dooley was a good man but not sure Dooley had the experience for a big name program like Tennessee and the SEC.
He told me point blank the next Tennessee hire if Dooley didn't work out would be a name coach or the school was going to lose lots of money from boosters. He said Saban proved you couldn't pay a good coach too much, they would pay for themselves. Just passing along what I have been told is all I am doing.
Their big alums also said they'd get John Gruden or Bill Cowher 2 years ago and they settled for Derp Dooley.
They have a way of overvaluing the attractiveness of their program....
I still think Tennessee can be a good job for the right coach. They have a lot of history and a very avid fan base.
I must say that it makes more sense for a program like UT to go with a proven record.
Truer words have never been posted on BOL. I just don't see ut taking a chance on an unproven coach & there next coach has to to be decent or they will find themselves battling UK & Vandy for the bottom of the east.
Not doubting what you were told, but I think there are several problems with that assessment. First, they tried to get a big name coach last time and ended up with Dooley because no one else would take the job. Not sure what has changed in 3 years. The only big name coach I think they could get at the moment would be Petrino. Second, it has been reported recently that the Tennessee athletic department is operating at a deficit and is down to about $2 million in its reserve fund. It would be very hard for them to buy Dooley out at this point without significant donor help, and it would appear they don't have the ability to ante up what it would cost to hire a big name coach.
Tennessee's athletic department posted a $3.98 million deficit for the 2011-12 fiscal year that forced it to use a substantial portion of its financial reserves, department officials acknowledged Monday.
yeah crimsonlawyer, it looks like instead of hiring a proven coach they need to hire Paul Bryant Jr to run the finances.....
I agree, I think they need a proven HC. Hiring another coach from the Saban tree would likely not go over too well even if it was Kirby. I think they've got to consider/look at the following:
Gary Patterson: Has won at TCU (109-30 in 12 years), but doesn't seem to be adjusting too well in the Big 12 & program discipline could be an issue.
Charlie Strong: Hasn't won big yet at Louisville, but has the program in the right direction and recruits well in a tough place to recruit, which he'll have to do in Tennessee.
Mark Dantonio: Would be interesting to see what he could do with great players. Has had success in the B1G, but has he had enough to land the Tennessee job and would he want it.
When we say that they are going to hire a "big name coach" who realistically could they hire?
Basically all of the big name coaches I can think of would be fairly quick no.
Don't care who they hire, but leave Kirby alone!
Strong could be a very good hire for them. Pretty sure Patterson turned them down last time. Dantonio will wait for the right job, and I don't think UT is the one he's waiting on.
He never told me BIG name coach, just a name coach with a proven record. No one hates Tennessee as much as myself but I am sure Tennessee would be an upgrade as far as a job for many good coaches.
Sure it just depends on who. Top coaches like Saban, Meyer, Stoops, Kelly, whatever will say no quickly.
Patterson could find his brand diminished and give UT a look. Chris Peterson could potentially as well but I doubt it.
After that I don't know, you could try to hire a Jim Grobe or a Pat Fitzgerald from his Alma Mater. As mentioned about Charlie Strong is not a bad hire.
Will be interesting to see how many jobs Coach Smart's name is associated with as the coaching carousel starts to turn. I would think that there would be a lot of pressure for UT to sign someone with Head Coaching experience, but with Dave Hart, Sal Sunseri and Derrick Ansley All being former Alabama guys it would sure ease the transition.
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Oh it's definitely a good job, but just saying...you always hear names get thrown around and it's almost never the guy people expect or the first name that gets dropped.
Folks at Ole Miss were saying Kirby was a "done deal" for them last year, and they wound up getting Freeze.
I hope they keep hiring away Saban guys trying to replicate our success. Unless they get Saban (they won't) they're on a chase for something they can never attain. Kirby's a fine coach and will make a fine HC, but just like with Sal, you can tell a fake from the original.
I see them going after someone proven, can't afford the risk again.
I see some SEC team courting Dantonio very soon. He is more of the Saban mold than Fisher/Dooley/or Muschamp imho. & he's cutting his teeth in the Big 12 at Saban's old gig.
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The only caveat I'll add to trying to use their last hiring situation to this one, is that the timing and surprise factor (as well as the ongoing NCAA cloud) left UT in a horrible situation to hire any sort of credible coach.
To his credit, I do think CDD has added a bit of stability and creditibility back to that job. I also think Hart will lead into, and conduct, the search in a well thought out and planned approach.
Im in no way saying Cowher or Gruden will end up there. Just saying thr next coaching hire will come in a wholly different environment than the last one did
UT should be tired of trying to hire.everybody in the U of Alabama Athletic Department. Thats a big part of their problem! It took Bama a few years and several coaches before they decided to go for the homerun (Saban). The UT boosters will put forth the money for the right coach. They are in the red now because no one is excited about the direction of the program.
Coach Kirby Smart is waiting for the right job, not just a head coaching job. He is paid very well at Bama.
The SEC East is an attractive opportunity for someone considering the Tennessee job.
The facilities and commitment to winning are there;
One would assume that at 67 Spurrier doesn't have much longer at South Carolina;
Mark Richt is the coach at Georgia; and
Generally you close the year with an OOC opponent, Vandy and Kentucky, usually a nice 3 win springboard into a bowl game/next season.
I live in Nashville and hear this kind of stuff everyday. I've even heard Tommy Tubberville mentioned. But there are three things I know. 1.) UT is not as good a job as many think it is. It struggles for a recruiting base. 2.) I know Kirby will be a head coach someday but why take a mediocre job and have to play Saban every year? Not wise. 3.) Dave Hart is his own man and I doubt there are any boosters that know precisely what he is thinking.
Will Dana Holgorsen's name emerge in the search? or is he too much of a loose cannon?
Mike Ward as well.
Kirby is paid very nicely for a coordinator, but he still makes less than half of what Derek Dooley makes.
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