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I have watched their D so far against BYU and Michigan State. A couple of points/tendencies that I have after really getting into what they try to do on defense.
1. This defense is made to protect from the "big play". They do not take many chances at all! They rarely blitz and when they do it is on the weak side with a Safety.
2. Teo is the center point of the defense, but without his front 3 or 4 would be an average MLB. He does not pursue the line well and it out of control when he does. I think ND knows that he is not very good in run support at the line, therefore he makes tackles after 4-5 yard gains. His role is very simple, cover the RB/TE, and make the tackle while the Dline absorbs the block. We do this just the same way, but Teo's stats are the result of his front 4.
3. Tendencies - 3 and long, they are going to be in a deep 2 zone with all LBs covering 7-8 yards downfield. They will give anything to the front, and nothing across the middle. Attacking the boundaries is easy, and the sideline is where BYU attacked all game long in these 3rd down situations. They AGAIN rely on their front 4 to get enough pressure to not let a QB extend the play.
4. BOUDARIES and Bubble Screens - Both BYU and Michigan State have ran multiple plays to the boundaries - why? because ND lets you have the boundary almost ever play. They have trouble covering the bubble screen as well, and their CBs are not very good with their technique at the line.
5. They will not leave the 3-4 set, unless they have too. BYU and Michigan State ran a very bane offense, while ND ran a SIMPLE version of the 3-4 the entire game. HOWEVER their 3-4 is equal to our nickel-dime package. They rush 4 (1 LB - 3 DL, 4DL) 95% of the time. They don't audible much, unless a guy is in motion.
I am going to watch Stanford (since that is the closest to our offensive style) and Oklahoma (see how they react to being spread out) I will update this thread ASAP.
Thanks for the Notes. Really hope we come out and Dominate.
Hope our OL can dominate up front
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you. RTR!
Watching Stanford game, they are being more aggressive in their blitzes. Many shifts on the Dline and run blitzing on run downs. They are playing 1st and 2nd down as a run down and 3rd as an obvious passing down in this game. Also Stanford had many dropped balls out in the flat (Taylor dropped a few in the 1st half). ND makes you beat them, and hope that the other team beats themselves. That is just the way they play, don't take many chances on Defense and see if you will beat yourself.
Stanford has trouble throwing against simple zone coverages in the first half, lots of WR not sitting in the soft spots of the zone, and ND was able to key in on Ertz because of that.
Golston does not trust himself in this game, wants to get out of the pocket to early. Reminds me of Blake Sims at QB
Kind of like the bend don't break philosophy? with that style of defense, itll be important for us on offense to keep self-inflicted mistakes to a minimum, penalties, dropped balls, TOs.
Make no mistakes, ND is an excellent defense, and I'm not implying you are saying they are not...they do the things you describe because they can and they simply don't have to do more and take chances. Watch how Stanford's and USC's OL plays them for the best comparison, but neither of those groups were anywhere close to as good as we are on the OL. I personally believe Warmack has the chance to make Teo look pedestrian, and I don't think they are going to be able to do the things that helped get them where they are now. I hope this gets them uncomfortable and we can take advantage of that. I agree they are vulnerable with screens and a simple toss out to Cooper. I agree we spread them out, but we also run some two and three tights, with a big key to our success being the play of Michael Williams...if big Mike can seal the edge with consistency I think we'll have great success running wide. Love our chances if we get to the second level with our skill players; this is where you will see where we have a decisive speed advantage...TJY finally breaks a long one for a TD in this game and leaves grins the size of Texas on our faces.
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I remember watching gameday a few weeks back and they talked about the emphasis on protecting their young secondary this year. They will not take chances and isolate their corners, so you have to make plays underneath. This also means...their corners are probably not going to come up much for run stop help, which could mean our rb's making the edges and getting big plays.
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I watched ND & Te'o a lot this year. Despite what the OP said, Te'o is very good in the run and passing game. Te'o reads blocking schemes as fast as anyone I have ever seen. He reads pulling guards & tackles very well and jumps in the gaps created by these linemen pulling. You are much better suited running straight at him. When he can't jump a gap, he stands pat (meaning 3 yards behind the line). He is physical, but this allows you to get a hat on him before he is able to completely blow up the play. This lends credence to what you are saying about Warmack. If Warmack can get in his face, we can get a lot of running yardage. He hasn't come across anyone near Warmack's calibre IMO.
Exactly...this is not the big, slow, rambling OL most teams have...we are athletic and for the positions they are, quick...no way to simulate this in practice, and honestly tough to pick up on film due to the athletes we play against and their quickness. I believe we have a real chance to surprise them early; I think they'll adjust and improve, but then deteriorate late due to lack of depth.
I look for a gameplane like last years game. Get the TE involved early, shallow crossing routes, then take the shots downfield.
To slow up any pass rush im sure we will see plenty of screen plays both WR and from the Rb's
here's to hoping Coop continues to ball out on the big stage
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Teo does a very good job of splitting gaps and reading a play, however the way he attacks the line of scrimmage is not very good. He is easy to take out of the play because he shots gaps out of control. He does the exact same thing Jarvis Jones did except on the outside. This is why ND plays him deeper than any other LB on the field. He does not bite on any play action in large part to that he plays the pass first. He and ND play the odds on every down, and not many teams ran draw or slow developing plays in large part because of their DLine. What i mean is that Teo would be an average MLB that has good instincts if it wasnt for his front 4. If we match up with the front 4 we can put Teo in bad spots. Also baiting the drag route opens up the middle of the field becasie Teo is always looking for the routes in front of him and baits up everytime. Look for alot of decoys across the middle, and some rub plays from our WR. IMO the pistol would be the best set we can use against this defense. We are able to get a body on a body and still be able to show more veratility with passing and rushing plays. Lots of motion will be used in this game by us. They show the same 3-4 set almost all game but they play the same set differently against a run heavy team. Also to note: If Nix is over the center he will always push towards Steen to try and take on a double team from BJ and Steen leaving Warmack more space to block a faster LB. this is the way ND creates the penetration up the middle. They do not show alot of outside blitzes and back out of it..in the 3 games i watched they showed a safety blitz and backed out of it just once. Also it was very very rare that a team audibled out of a play, and i think that was due to ND rarely blitzing or showing a certain coverage that tips of what they are running, lot of motions could be a tip off of this, but this is a very good defense because they dont mess up in coverage, and they have a great front 7 that runs a simple plain defense. We will be tested up the middle, and #7 Tuitt will be the only worry i have coming off the edges to get on McCarron. They trust their LBs to stop the run, and will go after McCarron on the edges and will not bite on many PAs. We will have to mix up the off tackle runs and getting out in the boudaries to keep their DEs from getting in AJs face. Also i think we will run some draw plays out of different formations to mix things up for their DEs and to see how Teo and the secondary are reacting to the run vs the pass. This defense has yet to be tested truely by a great passing game, and a greater running game. They played the percentages against pass heavy and run heavy teams and did what they had to do to not lose the game. After watching 4 games i see this being a struggle in thr first half to establish some things, but we will never be down in this one....
Alabama - 30
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Also look for us to throw in some no huddle to lossen up some things up front and see if we can get their secondary out of sync. Oklahoma could have been up 21-0 in the 1st if they didnt beat theirselves in every drive. They ran it right at ND and made it look easy before a bad snap, penalty and bad play calling on each drive. Going up tempo can get them on edge, but also slowing it down to pound them is going to be our MO as well, this will be very very similiar to the way we played vs UGA, except we will use the boundaries more in this game.
Nunez was the starter in that game. he was terrible ans still had a chance to pull out a win at South Bend. if Hogan was in, Stanford wins the game going away.
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