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We've all seen it. Every year, it seems we've taken some "iffy" commitments (by what is now our standards) early in the recruiting process, only to find ourselves pushing for a handful of elite players late with only a few open spots remaining. It's obviously worked out for us every year, but the extent to which this has been done has also decreased every season as we've worked our way in on players earlier and earlier in their high school careers.
Given that the overall talent level of our team is at (potentially) an all-time high, our staff can begin pushing nationally - even more so than this year - and go after the most coveted/elite talent across the board. We're already heavily involved with some absolute studs for next year's class (as well as 2015), as noted in the relentless updates that our staff was gracious enough to provide us during the Junior Day weekends.
Having said that, I've learned to not doubt those "iffy" players that I think Saban has signed, and it all started with Brad Smelly. I knew he wouldn't be a QB for us, but I had no idea that coach would find a place for the kid to be so successful and help the team to the extent that he did. There was also the likes of:
* Anthony Steen - 3*
* Chance Warmack - 3*
* Kevin Norwood - 3*
* Deion Belue - 3*
* Vinnie Sunseri - 3*
* Duron Carter (g)
Roll Tide fellas. Let's stop the doubting, and let's start trying to get inside the mind of the greatest coach in college football. It's silly for us to continue questioning him instead learning from the best.
This post was edited by rolltide1219 14 months ago
"The Lord just wasn't with us, Coach."
"The Lord," grumbled Bryant, "expects you to block and tackle."
Rick Bragg, August 8, 2012
They're are not iffy if Saban takes them. Not every recruit is going to always pan out, that's life.
Norwood has been clutch!!! Great observation!!! +1
Norwood was not a 3 star.
Norwood was an elite WR in high school..
According to the Commit List on 247, he was. That was his composite ranking given it was prior to the 247 go-live (2009).
And to Tman4bama, I was excited about the pickup, especially given the infancy of Coach Saban's tenure, but the list also indicates that he was ranked #39 at his position. Granted, WR is a position in which a large group of players could be ranked anywhere from #15-#50 with a fair argument for doing so, but I'm not sure we would've had the same exuberance today if we got that "same" player. By comparison, Bradley Sylve was #15 and Raheem Falkins is #50 (both composite rankings).
My point is that we are ONLY getting great players these days. The rankings are a great tool for us as fans, but it doesn't mean that a player ranked higher would be more successful in our system than one ranked lower. At some point, context matters for predicting outcomes.
composite rankings are garbage IMO. What's the 247 ranking or Rivals ranking?
This post was edited by rollingtide2004 14 months ago
Wasn't Smelley a Shula recruit?
I didn't realize how much attrition we had from that class:
And a few early entrants:
You write extremely well and +1. Do you care to identify the "iffy" commits you reference in this year's class?
As I mentioned, 247 didn't exist at that time, but Rivals had him as a 5.9 4-star, and #22 at his position. I was at BOL when they were with Rivals, and I'm not suggesting that I wasn't excited about getting him. I was just using him as an example, and although you think it to be a bad one, I don't, given the composite.
I know, to each his own, but there's value in normalizing the perception of the player. The composite ranking is more "unarguable" to someone outside the 247 network, as well. I don't know if the Composite uses a weighted average, but I would like to see Rivals and 247 with a larger influence than ESPN or Scout.
Regardless, it hit our class pretty closely, last year, compared to the 247 ranking: 247 has us at 781.44 and the Composite has us at 783.02 - that's a pretty slim margin. This year, 247 has us at 781.40 and the Composite has us at 788.99, with roughly the same gap between us and the #2 team in both rankings.
Sure, although as I mentioned, I quit doubting a long time ago. Our guys either move up or move out now, so I don't worry about it too much. And for clarification, by "iffy", I just mean "did we really need to take this guy vs. waiting around on that guy"? And I don't want to insinuate I am, in any way, qualified to judge a player's upside.
* Walker Jones
* Cole Mazza
Was tempted to throw Bozeman in there, but he's obviously taking the grayshirt, and he's a mean player and has the build to become a pretty solid guard for us I think, in time. It'll be interesting to see how well he competes next Spring.
Michael Bowman is still my biggest disappointment from that class. I kept hoping he'd turn into our version of Marques Colston. Was relatively indifferent on some of the others, given the circumstances.
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