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While I understand that execution is the most important factor in playing the game of football, I believe our play calling has been predictable. The past two games (through three quarters), we essentially alternate between run and pass. I know Saban wants balance but I don't think Nuss has caught onto the fact that balance should be obtained throughout the game, not on each series. There's nothing wrong with running it three or four times in a row. If AJ is checking out of runs, they need to reel him back in. We have superior athletes and alternating pass run on each series will work against lesser competition, but we have to keep better teams guessing.
Goes a little something like this:
1st down: Incomplete pass
2nd down: 5 yard rushing gain by Lacy/Yeldon
3rd down: incomplete pass
4th down: punt
That pretty much sums up our offense against LSU and A&M.
So you are telling me the play action roll out on first down is not a secret any more? You just have to laugh about it a little to keep some sanity.
This is dead on. I'd love to see the number of times we have run after an incomplete pass on first down. I'd bet it's close to 90 percent of the time.
We are definitely good at putting together consecutive 3 and outs these days. Our D is sucking wind midway through the first qtr b/c our O can't stay on the field.
I'm not going to go back and look at every game...be my guest...
The number of times we ran after an incomplete pass last night - ONCE. 3rd qtr about 9 mins left. Pass incomplete, run for no gain, pass for 21 yards and a first down. Three straight runs later, we kick a FG.
One drive out of 11. Im no genius but thats closer to 9% than 90%.
Maybe we aren't too predictable. Even after watching the game, people can't call the plays we ran.
Its not predictability, its a lack of identity. Are we a running team? Are we a passing team? It seems we don't even know and try to make up for it at the last second.
I seem to recall BJ getting worked more than any game I can remember
Your not wrong...
I predict that if we ran on more 1st downs that the first game we struggled doing it we'd say we were too predictable and our offense is terrible. It didn't seem too predictable time last night. If like to see less running out of the Shotgun though but that's just a personel opinion. We've actually been pretty good at it.
Mentally and Physically tired....causes things that normally would not happen, to happen. Excuse? Absolutely not. Aspect - you bet. Over the last 5 years our weirdest, most questioning performances have come in the 5th, 6th straight game prior to some break. That has shown itself just about every year.
Going forward....there is no break until after the SEC Championship Game (assuming of course we do beat Auburn) and get there (g) That will be 3 more weeks in a row of playing games making a streak of 8 straight weeks. That's tough on any football team. Add the type of football we play under all the circumstances that come with being The University of Alabama Football - and it can wear on even the best prepared. I really hope we can somehow get some much needed rest this week and put next weeks game away quickly. If not, we will find this team getting more and more mentally tired. And what does mental tiredness do to a person?
That's what it looked like to me as well
We've been predictable on offense since 2008. It all comes down to execution. We haven't executed very well these last couple of weeks and the teams we have played against have. We are fortunate to be 1-1 after these two games.
Bama ain't the place for a coach to learn on the job. Time for Nuss to realize this ain't the slac12 anymore.
At least we're not the barn..
Bootleg and drag the tight end...more draws and sceen passes...heck there are many times where AJ could get up to the line of scrimmage and do a QB sneek for 8 yards! Mix in some wildcat! If we are not going to pound it like we should, we have got to be more creative!
Technically we were going to do it 3 of the first 4. The first incompletion followed with a very short route for 5 yards (to get us in third in managable which is really my point). The next incompletion we tried to run but Cyrus jumped early. Therefore, we threw
Then we ran after the next incompletion (which you spoke of) and then ran the very next second down we had after that (which was actually a second and 9 but more to my point....second and long we run to put it at third and manageable).
We only had a few opportunities to do it. What is very clear is that if we get very little on first after a pass we run on second (more realistic is call a very safe short route or run).
I went back and looked at LSU beings you were too busy and we did it all 3 times in the first 3 qtrs after an incompletion. Hard to do that the last drive with the game on the line. The one time we didn't run after an incomplete pass on first down in the 4th besides the last drive of the game was when AJ threw a hitch route behind the LOS to Shin with 8 minutes to go in the game (essentially a run). So of the 5 chances that presented themselves we had 4 runs, and 1 pass behind the LOS. Even the only incompletion we had on first down in the game winning drive followed with a screen (another pass behind the LOS).
We did not have 11 incompletions on first down in the A&M game either. We had 4 and 2 came in the two minute before halftime. Other than that we had 2 other opportunities and we ran the one time you mentioned. The other, a quick pass behind the LOS to Yeldon. So of the 4 times it happened, 2 were in 2 minute and the other 2 times we ran once and threw a pass to the back behind the LOS (pretty much a run). While my 90 percent may be off a little we are very predictable.
In our base O we have ran it after an incomplete pass everytime except a couple of times. One was the Shinn pass I mentioned, and the rest have come in 2 minute drill except for the one against A&M that came when we were down 29-17 with about 7 minutes left (I wouldn't call that our base O).
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by cwaters2 20 months ago
Also, against Tenn we were 2-2 through the first 3 qtrs and 4-4 when you count the times we tried to pass and AJ had to scramble for a sack or almost no gain. Then the backups came in.
So that is 100 percent against Tenn. We were 3 for 3 against MSU and 4-4 if you count the run after an AJ sack (essentially an incomplete).
Aside from the 2 minute drill or playing from behind so that we have to pass which skews the numbers. I may be a little low at 90 percent.
100 percent against UT and MSU and 80 percent against LSU. Was only 1-5 against A&M but I was not factoring the 2 minute drill or hurry up Offense when I made the statement b/c we were talking about our regular offense. 3 of the 4 misses against A&M came in hurry up O. The other time, we tried to run and were called for false start. Therefore, we threw on 2 and 15.
The 1st down pass is usually AJ throwing it away when no one is open.
IMO unless he's on, AJ is not good enough to carry us. He's too inconsistent for whatever reason. In both of those games, there was pass after pass that were off target that would have extended drives and changed the outcome of the game. An overthrow of Cooper was minus 7 vs LSU and an underthrow of Cooper was minus 7 against TAMU. (Believe Yeldon fumbled on that posession)
That's the way it is when you rely on a passing game though IMO. When you are on, you blow people out like we did all year. When the passing game isn't working then we look like we have the last 2 weeks when missing a few throws.
Looking back the last few years it has been a good running game that has carried teams to championships. Not a passing game. A passing game is too inconsistent IMO. Look at how OU, USC, WVU, and other passing teams look when things aren't clicking.
Teams can still be beat that run the ball the most consistently. But most of the time it is b/c the other team beat you. Not b/c you beat yourself.
This is pretty general statement I understand. But IMO we were less talented in 2008,2009, and even last year 2011. Outside of the LSU game last year where we threw the ball too much IMO (still should of won if we could of made a field goal), we ran the ball and did not lose to teams we shouldn't have.
This post was edited by cwaters2 20 months ago
We coulda used Darby up the middle at end of that last drive !
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