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I think its a good thing that UGA fans want to take up for IC and players like him. As long as they defend outlandish and idiotic acts as this, they will be middle of road SEC with illusions of grandeur. Their arrogance never ceases to amaze me.
I've never seen anyone attacking Richt as a person or his religious beliefs over this, but to think that these recurring issues are not to some extent his fault is assinine imo. So when this happens at the barn its all Chizik and Troops fault, but at UGA its just kids being kids because Richt is a "good Christian man?" Kids require discipline and guidance and must have respect for the head of the program. Comparing the issues we had in the past, i.e. textbooks, disturbing the peace, etc with felony possession of a concealed illegal weapon on school property is outrageous. It's Richts fault for recruiting kids with zero character and for allowing them to believe that they can commit serious crimes with no repercussions, team related or by law enforcement. I'm shocked that anyone is defending Mark Richt on this. He didn't hand him the gun but he allowed this behavior pattern to fester and spiral into a serious problem.
Just remember we recruited IC along w every other program out there. We would have taken him.
This is the question I've pondered the most in the last 24 hrs.. We all like to believe we get whoever we want, that CNS has superhuman recruiting powers... Is there maybe a reason we didn't push quite as hard for him? When you look at all the high profile kids who go elsewhere and have major issues, we as fans wanted all of them... Is our clean track record more a result of cooling on these particular "bad seeds" or are their off the field problems the result of the environment at other schools? Or does this go right back on Richt? When have we had a player charged with gun possession like this or any crime of similar magnitude?
Your right his players look at him as the Dad who lets you slide...you can blame him because he is the one recruiting/ signing the trouble makers and the guy/dad that let's that attitude of bad behavior continue on his team...it seems to me the time he let the entire team run to the end zone from the sideline to celebrate during a game is indicative to the way he coaches!
This post was edited by Tdown01 2 years ago
This exactly. He is a habitual 9-10 win coach year in and year out. For this, the BOT over there can't get rid of him. That's their best span of seasons in their history. They are not UF, USC, OSU, OU, UM, and damn sure not Bama, so they will have to keep him. We will continue out performing them while he is there on a regular basis. I hate to say it, but when UGA plays Bama, Ark, and LSU again in the same season, if ever, he will be fired following that season.
We take our fair share of low character guys. They just either get with the program or get put in the dog house early on. Rolo is one of my favorite Bama players of all time, but look at his off the field issues pre- and post-Bama; atrocious to say the least. Saban and Co. do a great job of keeping guys in check while they're here, but we still take some salty individuals. As for why we didn't get IC, I don't think it's because we cooled on him, I think we just got beat out by UGA. Saban is the best, but no one is perfect.
This post was edited by sf2k4 2 years ago
Uga is lswho without having had saban.
Ronald Reagan: Man is not free unless government is limited.
I have one problem with CMR being "a good Christian man" & that is he uses it to recruit & to deflect criticism & he doesn't seem to use it to convert other people to God (maybe I'm unaware of this) He just strikes me as a person who would do/say whatever to better his own cause & I still think he is a skinny & younger Phil Fulmer.
I liked the post in that thread that said they were "ahead of the curb" recruiting RBs. I just took it with a grade of saw.
Very reminiscent of the parents of unruly children who fail to take responsibility for their children's actions.
I do not think this a moral issue. It is simply an issue of accountability. Or lack thereof.
This post was edited by RockyRaccoon 2 years ago
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
Saban players have off-field issues like once or twice a year and they're generally not terribly serious, as opposed to things like armed robbery or this thing with Crowell. And CMR has these kinds of things happen every 2-3 months it seems.
The number of arrests at UGA is ridiculous and at some point you have to say that their coach isn't guiding these kids as well as he should and helping them make good life choices.
I've often wondered if we really got beat out by UGA or if IC just knew it would be an easier path under CMR at UGA and knew Saban wouldnt put up with the bs. We see where taking the easy way got him.
This link talks about that very thing...
Richt is a weakling, and his team takes on his persona. That's why he never wins big even though they sign top talent every year. UGA is one of the softest teams in the country. I knew when they played Boise State last year they would embarrass the SEC. BSU doesn't have UGA's talent, but they're a whole lot tougher and more physical. Right now, the inmates run the ship at Georgia, and Richt is lucky they've had this soft schedule in 2011 and 2012. Otherwise, he'd already be gone. Last year, they lost to every decent team they played.
Some people bring a knife to a gun fight. Mark Richt brings a Super Soaker 2000.
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