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Yep. B/c that is what we are saying.
The freshman that have played meaningful snaps have done so when there was not any experienced veterans in front of them. And that was in nearly every scenario.
Go back over the time and look at all the frosh that have played meaningful time. Milliner, Trent (who didn't play alot the first game b/c of Upchurch who experienced injuries), Julio, etc.
Do you really think that Perry or Vinnie (did you watch them this year?) were better than Collins and Smith? The moment Smith took the field he was light years better than Vinnie yet didn't play until he literally had to.
Saban is going to take the guy that is going to be right on his assignments over a guy with more potential. He knows it is better to just be a step slower to the ball but have the ability to make a tackle and live to fight another day than it is to have a guy with all the potential be in the wrong place and cost his team 7. It has been proven time and time again.
We have not always used 3 guys in the middle. We have though when guys bring different skill sets to the position. The question I would ask is what Rueben brings different to the table than either Mosley or DePriest?
Also, I'll have to disagree with the DH and Ro statement. I do not believe either would of played significant time over the 3 guys that played this past year. I think their role would of been similar to Raglands last year.
Did you see A. Cooper play a significant amount of time this year?
You mean the guy that played a position that lost two starters from the previous year????????
Read my posts please. Guys that come in where previous starters have left have a chance to play significant roles. Which is why I said Howard and Henry (or one of the other RBs have a chance).
If the meaning of your post is to question whether I believe Robert Foster plays alot then go ahead. I do not believe he is going to come in and beat out K. Bell, Norwood, Cyrus Jones, Chris Jones, Chris Black, DeAndrrew White and Cooper for PT. This doesn't even include Shinn.
For the record and you can go back and read all my old posts. I did think both Cooper and Black would play last year. For 3 reasons...
1) they came in early
2) they were talented
3) UA needed to replace 2 guys and a 3rd that played significant minutes from the year before... thus opening up opportunities
Name the year when saban didn't use at least 3 inside LB.
We didn't in 07, 08 and we weren't going to in 09 either until DH got injured and then Reamer took over. The last 3 years we have b/c we've had a guy that was really good against the run and a LB that was really good against the pass and although Mosley is/was just as good aagainst the run it has kept him fresher and healthier so he hasn't been in as much. When the games were on the line he played. As evidence look at Nico's PT against ND.
The point I'm making about Foster is that he doesn't bring a different dimension to the table. Nico knew the system inside and out so the coaches didn't have a problem with him in the game and Mosley on the sideline. That isn't going to be the case with Foster.
This post was edited by cwaters2 14 months ago
JMO, but I think we are going to see a lot of rotating along the dline/olb. With all the talent we have there (fanning, pagan, Stinson, Hubbard, Pettway, Tomlinson, Dickson, Devall, etc.) there is no way you can keep them all off the field. If JA can work his way in this group I think he gets a lot of mop up duty like Devall had this year. As for the Reuben, there's an opening in the role of Nico. And one thing I've learned in the Saban era is true fresh can play easiest at RB and WR. If Robert gets the blocking down he will play.
Derrick Henry WILL be playing on offense next year!
I am not saying that TF are going to start game one. I'm not a moron. I honestly don't know where this discussion took that turn. The op's question was - "Which recruits most likely to see the field next season? Outside of special teams? Robert Foster? Reuben Foster? Leon Brown? What y'all think?"
Part of your 1st response was - " I just don't see freshman getting PT over guys that have been on the team. It really hasn't happened since Saban has been here."
Then you proceeded to point out situations(Devall, Yeldon and Smith etc) that contradicted your statement.
Again, the OP asked "what recruits will see the field next year outside of special teams". Nothing about starting day 1.
Every time a freshman gets playing time he is getting it "over guys that have been on the team".
Good thread. Did not read.
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I don't have time to research the stats but if I remember correctly
07: Ro, prince hall, daren mustin
08: Ro, DH, didn't hall play some then get suspended? Did Chris Jordan play ? Did reamer play on inside at all that year? Honestly can't remember. 08 could be the exception. So maybe 1 year out of 6.
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