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Discussion question while we wait for the next commit to pull the trigger.
Its hard to compare the pre-internet era to today if what we are talking abou tis public reaction and fan interest, but the old school cnadidates would include Joe Willie, the Snake, Archie Manning, Condredge Holloway, Pat Sullivan, Steve Spurrier, Babe Parilli, Peyton Manning, any others? (Peyton is here because we didn't yet have the 24/7 (no pun intended) coverage we now have)
The present day contenders would include Tebow, Johnny Football, Eli Manning, Cammy Cam, maybe, MAYBE Jamarcus Russel.
I find myself leaving several Heisman winners (like Wuerfell) off the list because they were never considered to be outstanding well rounded QBs but more beneficiaries of a system. Same for a couple of NC winners (like Jay Barker) who were outstanding and were winners but were not held in that same high regard as we hold those who can control and change a game without the strong supporting cast.
Remember the question is most celebrated, not best. My opinion? I'd have to go with Tebow over Peyton on this, but Johnny Football has a chance with all the time he has left?
Interesting, isn't it, that AJ will end up the winningest QB on this list, may have the highest won loss percentage when all is said and done, will end up with more NC's than any other, yet he isn't even the most celebrated QB in the SEC in the current year. And likely won't be next year either.
P.S. I define NCs for this purpose as those acheived as a starter. Tebow was on two teams that won, but in 2006 he was more of a change of pace QB and Leak was the starter.
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I think this only starts in the last 15 years or so with the rise of the internet, social media and ESPN becoming the super power that it is.
Archie, Snake, Joe Willie, and just about any other QB back then wasn't nearly as "celebrated" because of the lack of info on them to every part of our county.
Peyton was before the rise of social media but he was still up there with ESPN being the super power that it is now, coming back for his senior season. Cam was celebrated but only got that for 1 year. So I discount him on that account. He only got 1 year instead of 3 or 4 years. I don't think Eli is even in the same discussion since he was never on a team that sniffed a NC or Heisman. All others were in that discussion (at least one of them or both).
I think it really is Tebow 1st. He played 4 years. He won 2 titles. He won a Heisman. He went to NYC for 3 years. He had the human interest side to go along with that. We have never seen anything like that. Hell they are still doing it with the NYJ.
I would put Peyton number 2 and Manziel at #3. However since Manziel could play not just 1 more year but 2 or 3 more, I am betting he will move ahead of Peyton for #2. He could move ahead of Tebow but we don't know how this will play out.
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Tebow, Lost plenty by his sub-par pro performance
Eli, good but still not even recognized the best in his family.
Peyton, great pro QB but did not win NC at ut, lack of big time wins hurt.
Spurrier, will always be thought of as a coach.
AJ, Johnny football time will tell may-be
Joe Namath, IMO is the hands down winner!
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He is a legend at BAMA, New York City & the NFL. He will always be remembered as the person who brought the AFC to equal the NFC & create the NFL as we now know it. His exploites off the field only made his legend grow. This is my opinion ROLL TIDE ROLL!
This post was edited by ducky lee 15 months ago
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I saw this thread right after you posted it, but thought I'd wait a while to answer.
It's Tebow. I don't think there's any doubt.
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Maybe one of the more celebrated backups in SEC history. Definitely a celebrated QB as far as the Packers are concerned, but didn't play much at all in college.
Agree. 25 years from now people will still be talking about his college career, dispite his NFL career. Somewhat mirros Archie's career (although Archie had an OK NFL career....just bad teams).
I'm sure Tebow will make analyst appearances as well one day.
"most celebrated".... easily Tebow #1 and Archie #2. "most accomplished"...probably will be AJ. But nobody got the buzz of Tebow and Archie Manning before him. That's if you are in your 50's or 60's and go back that far. Further back, Harry Gilmer of the Tide.
This post was edited by forthebear 15 months ago
No votes for Zeke Pike?
If you are basing the question strictly off of celebrated play "in the SEC" history .....
If you are basing the question as celebrated QB to come out of the SEC ......
Joe Willie Namath .......
Not even a discussion for the reasons pointed out above and IF he were in todays age Tebow and Johnny Football would not even compare for the media side of discussion. Granted the Jesus crowd would still be knobbing all over Tebow, but Namath had an explosive personality that would have been a highlight reel every hour on the hour within this media age from HS, College thru the NFL ...... The only question is COULD Namath control that persona enough to keep his peepee from getting cutoff!
If you only take into account their college experience, then it's Tebow. No doubt there.
However, if you take into account the entirety of their careers, then Joe Namath is the standard, and I would say Peyton Manning isn't far behind.
Tebow, Archie, Peyton, Joe Namath, Conredge Holloway
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