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Johny Manzeil had "the game of his life" against us? Im not trying to be obnoxious here, but the kid was a freaking stud all year. Its not like he went Mettenburger on us and went off more than usual. the kid played great ball all year, and i kinda see that as an excuse. bring on the down votes.
Well we are obviously better than the other teams he has beaten up. Statistically, we are number one in total defense and scoring defense. We are number two in rushing defense, three in passing defense and five in passing efficiency defense. If you take away the A&M game, we are number one in basically every category (not exactly 100% sure in passing efficiency D but we would be very very close).
We were the best competition. The fact that he went 24/31; .77; 253yds, 2TD, 0INT, 18 carries, 92 yards is incredible against our D. It's ridiculous. He accounted for 85% of A&M's offense.
Sure he has played well against most everybody but not everybody is the best defense in the country.
And ignoring the stats and watching the game it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that he was beyond on. His accuracy, decision making, overall ability, really everything was off the charts.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by manbearpig7 20 months ago
+1 I agree 100%. The kid has earned the praise he's gotten imho.
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Didn't have near the amount of success against UF or lsu as he did against us, but other than those 2, and that's not to say he didn't make some plays in those games, i agree he was a stud most of the season, but im on the other side of the fence too bcz his best game was his show in t-town, so youre right and wrong id say...
I definatly agree we were his stiffest competition to date, but i think the "game of his life" thing gets thrown around too much. Mettenburger for sure had the game of his life, Gacia 2010 for sure had the game of his life, but ill go out on a limb and say Johny football will have more games like this.
Who is Johny Football? The only QB im concerned with is Mr Murray. J.Football will see Bama again..Hopefully as a Heisman winner so Bama can Tebow his ass...
We gave the kid the stage. & he took full advantage of it. If he wins the Heisman. It's because of the day he had at Bama. My hats off to him.
Yea you are probably right, the kid is young. I think on the road in Tuscaloosa against the number 1 ranked D, yea it was a pretty amazing performance and his best of the year.
He should win the Heisman and it's absolutely because of the Bama game. My hats off to him as well.
Then find another thread and talk about Mr. Murray lol
Cause in his other games against top defenses he was not a stud. The game against us was the first time he played great in a big game.
Exactly. It was the game of his life. If he made any mistakes, I missed them and his passing accuracy was off the charts especially in the 2nd half.
Original poster said "it's not like he went "Mettenberger" on us"
I prefer inserting "Xavier Lee on us"
Dude never played that well before or after he picked us apart in the River City Showdown
Maybe I've just missed it, but I haven't heard many people on this board say he had "the game of his life". But as MBP said, he did have an 'off the charts' performance against what is probably the best defense in the country. At one point late in the third quarter, he was 21 for 23 passing. That's a completion percentage of over 91 percent. That's beyond ridiculous considering who he was playing against. So yeah, he'll have other games where he plays at a similar level and probably already has. But when considering who he did it against, that was probably his best game of the season.
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There's no doubt he had a good game against us. Our defense didn't start the game very well. However, look at the stats:
1st Qtr: Manzeil: Rush Yards - 74, Pass Yards - 76
Rest of Game: Manzeil: Rush Yards - 18, Pass Yards - 177
After the first quarter, our defense played about as well as you can against that type of player. And they gave up just 9 points in 3 quarters. And don't forget 7 points the offense gave away in the 1st quarter on the tip interception on our side of the field. And the bounce of the ball right back to Manzeil. And the Yeldon fumble on a potential scoring drive. And the 1st and goal at the 6. And the penalty that killed one last miracle chance.
Bottom line is we came out a bit flat and unprepared for the QB, but then settled down and contained him. If our offense hadn't been so bad that day (seemed like 3 and out over and over), we would have won and probably won quite easily. It reminded me of the 2010 Iron Bowl when about 6 or 7 things all went wrong when if just one had went the other way, we win.
So, no, I don't understand all this hype about how Manzeil dominated us, how our loss to TA&M was a very bad loss, etc. Doesn't add up.
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Because every Heisman winner has a Heisman moment. & that was his. Pretty simple really.
Because as much as everyone else hates to admit it, Alabama has become the measuring stick of players in college football. If your team beats Alabama these days then they have done something special and everyone know it.
I think he is a real lucky player. Too much scrambling with no holding called and next year I think that luck runs out.
Um, yeah, to add to the above wisdom, the redshirt freshman came to Tuscaloosa and beat the number one team in the country. I'm not sure what game you could point back to and say was a better game in his football life. Get it?
No disrespect, but, no. He's all that and deserves all the attention he's getting right now. Before the game the announcers were saying if A&M was going to win, the kid would have to put the team on his shoulders and win it for them. No one denies he did just that. Respect to Manzeil.
There is no question he has gifts. That said do you think the "system" he plays in plays a part in his success. The hurry up get most teams out of position early and confused. Probably partly the reason his running stats are so high early in the games against good defenses. Many quick short passes. Designed QB runs. Look back at case Keenums stats and they are nearly equally impressive. Would he be this successful at a pro style offense say uga or bama? I agree he played perfect against us which was the difference in the game .
This post was edited by crimsonheart2 20 months ago
Bottom line if he played for Bama all of you that say you aren't sold on him would completely melt down if someone else said this. He is legit.
That's all well and good but you're not giving the kid his due, IMO. There have been lots of QBs in lots of systems, nobody has ever had more total yards than him in the SEC over a season. Ever. Think about that. Not Tebow, not Newton, nobody. And he's played against some pretty good defenses, this ain't the big 12.
To answer the OP's question, the game of his life thing isn't about playing over his head like Garcia did for one fluke game. He had other good games but this was against #1, undefeated, defending NC Bama with their vaunted defense on national TV in one of the great stadiums. And he made a bunch of great plays and never got rattled. Sometimes the stage makes the difference.
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